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I'd say there's a point to MP even for a non-GaS ARPG, a lot of people like playing these games coop. Personally I don't give a shit but I can see why they put some effort into it, people will buy several boxes at once to play with their friends even if it's just the once and if you're not monetizing cosmetics and season passes and other shit like that, selling more boxes is obviously something good. I personally don't play MP but I think it likely makes financial sense to have MP in this type of game.
Like most ARPGs, including Grim Dawn, I think this will release in an "ok to meh" state and will be fixed by patches and a paid expansion down the road. Base Grim Dawn wasn't that great imo but got better with the expansions adding a bunch of content and the patches over time.
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Caeden
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I duo a LOT in arpgs with my best friend. I also know LE people have talked about trade and leagues, so my point is that they have done their development kind of wonky in taking forever to do leagues and MP. Grim Dawn I played solo though.
I’d be ok without leagues if they limited the Atlas or whatever it’s called to a character. But really same. I just want to play with my buddy.
I’d be ok without leagues if they limited the Atlas or whatever it’s called to a character. But really same. I just want to play with my buddy.
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Item Gifting Development Update from our Principal Game Designer
If you’ve been following Last Epoch, you’re probably aware that our plans for how trading will work in the game have evolved significantly over development. In this dev blog, I’ll explain the reasoning and design process that brought us to our current plans, what those plans are, and how they...
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Item Gifting Development Update from our Principal Game Designer
If you’ve been following Last Epoch, you’re probably aware that our plans for how trading will work in the game have evolved significantly over development. In this dev blog, I’ll explain the reasoning and design process that brought us to our current plans, what those plans are, and how they...
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They had me at bazaar, they lost me at "gifting".Item Gifting Development Update from our Principal Game Designer
If you’ve been following Last Epoch, you’re probably aware that our plans for how trading will work in the game have evolved significantly over development. In this dev blog, I’ll explain the reasoning and design process that brought us to our current plans, what those plans are, and how they...
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How finished is this in its present state? I've been holding off on the assumption that the the game is going to be different in the future, I'm unlikely to play it twice, and I want to experience the "right" version.
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Well I mean the right version isn't going to be any version before 1.0 when the game actually launches. That or much later once they add expansions and what not. 0.9 is coming early next year with multiplayer(plus I guess a bunch of other shit), then 1.0 will likely follow next summer or so, so that's when you'd play it for it to be feature complete. Not too sure what's in 1.0 plans but there's really no reason to play a game pre release if you want the complete version.
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I think majority of the content is in. Definitely some major rebalancing probably between now and release etc but I don't think overall play experience will change drastically. End of the day the game is really centered around diverse end game grinding. Story/pre mono goes pretty quick and outside of a few challenging parts for people is kind of whatever.
Part of me hates that there isn't an economy especially with the great crafting system + LP that they built out, would be pretty interesting when you start getting into those lottory luck items like 4 LP items and double exalted T7 drops etc. End of the day they are making the right call, i read through their reasoning and thought about what I would do and honestly I probably would make the same call looking at all the factors. The gifting thing is a nice touch to help drive co-op, end of the day the risk vs reward of introducing a trading system into LE specifically just isn't there. Also the RMT side would be crazy when you are talking LP4 items etc.
Only other alternative that would be pretty awesome and bring back some old EQ bazaar memories is if they didn't allow gold trading. Made it straight up auction channel and negoition based trading. There isn't any dumb currency crafting stuff like POE to build around outside of Glyph of Despair's really which are pretty rare and minor impactful. That would have a fun human element and stay relatively high level as most people aren't wasting time trading meh stuff. Always interesting to do that because you get to see just how true "value is relative" is. But would still lend itself to RMT abuse just straight selling items for cash and hard to police so again...they made the right call.
Part of me hates that there isn't an economy especially with the great crafting system + LP that they built out, would be pretty interesting when you start getting into those lottory luck items like 4 LP items and double exalted T7 drops etc. End of the day they are making the right call, i read through their reasoning and thought about what I would do and honestly I probably would make the same call looking at all the factors. The gifting thing is a nice touch to help drive co-op, end of the day the risk vs reward of introducing a trading system into LE specifically just isn't there. Also the RMT side would be crazy when you are talking LP4 items etc.
Only other alternative that would be pretty awesome and bring back some old EQ bazaar memories is if they didn't allow gold trading. Made it straight up auction channel and negoition based trading. There isn't any dumb currency crafting stuff like POE to build around outside of Glyph of Despair's really which are pretty rare and minor impactful. That would have a fun human element and stay relatively high level as most people aren't wasting time trading meh stuff. Always interesting to do that because you get to see just how true "value is relative" is. But would still lend itself to RMT abuse just straight selling items for cash and hard to police so again...they made the right call.
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Well now I wish I never bought this game. Without some sort of auction house or trading interface this just becomes D3 since people are going to complain when they drop INT items on a STR build character and vice-versa. I don't understand how these retarded studios don't just realize that not everything needs to be tradeable; simply let people put crafting mats/supplies on an AH or trade bot and make them hunt for good bases. Fucking hell.
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The crafting system in this game lets you replace the INT with STR though doesn’t it? Been a while since I last played.
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Since launch. One of the big content creators early on got busted multiple times. I even tried to work out one build he tried before realizing it was trash without perfect items.
I think it has either been fixed or is going away with the MP patch.
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