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Teekey
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Believe it or not, not every can troll a thread 24 hours a day like you.
Anyways, I'm absolutely loving the new vision trinkets. Having a perma-ward for the mid lane is very nice...almost verging on too easy, honestly.
Sidian
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So did a couple games as Shyvana going Wriggles first. Suprisingly I did end up getting a lot of extra gold in the long run, but having to spend so much on wriggles meant my early game was a lot weaker. Although the sustain + 100magic dmg / hit meant I could clear camps in seconds, as well as do dragon solo very fast. Also was able to do a 20 min baron with our cait & nami. One of my games I ended up with most gold on the team and was up by about 20cs because I sat in the jungle for such a long time farming. Honestly though, would probably still rather get golem first.
I'm actually assuming having a jungler won't go away anytime soon mainly because if one team doesn't have a jungle the other team could just pick up a fast clear champ and clear the whole map over and over and over again. Also, vision control seems to favor jungle right now since support can't spam 10 wards down at once and also the couple games I've played people seem to get that scan trinket and clear wards quite frequently which is nice.
I'm actually assuming having a jungler won't go away anytime soon mainly because if one team doesn't have a jungle the other team could just pick up a fast clear champ and clear the whole map over and over and over again. Also, vision control seems to favor jungle right now since support can't spam 10 wards down at once and also the couple games I've played people seem to get that scan trinket and clear wards quite frequently which is nice.
Sidian
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Bad news guys.
Since you don't get level 3 from doing Red > Blue anymore, it's a pretty big hit to Shaco. It also means it's rougher for Shaco to counter jungle early, I guess you could still do Red > Blue > Enemy red, but then you won't have your shiv (E) and you won't be a level up on the enemy jungle, which really sucks and makes it a ton riskier.
I still went 4/1/13 with 2nd most gold on our team but it really delays you since you have to do wolves/wraiths afterwards. Although, it is nice that you can get 1 pot when you start dorans blade, so that helps. I guess everybody spamming gold items and not wards makes his ganking quite OP as well.
Since you don't get level 3 from doing Red > Blue anymore, it's a pretty big hit to Shaco. It also means it's rougher for Shaco to counter jungle early, I guess you could still do Red > Blue > Enemy red, but then you won't have your shiv (E) and you won't be a level up on the enemy jungle, which really sucks and makes it a ton riskier.
I still went 4/1/13 with 2nd most gold on our team but it really delays you since you have to do wolves/wraiths afterwards. Although, it is nice that you can get 1 pot when you start dorans blade, so that helps. I guess everybody spamming gold items and not wards makes his ganking quite OP as well.
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Tranny Chaser
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If you run exp quints you can do buff, buff, one small wolf and be level 3. Also red + golems + wraiths is level 3.
If you have Zilean on your team you can do buff buff and be level 3.
zombiewizardhawk
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So I just had a game where my bottom lane lost out inhibitor at 14 minutes and ran around in the base avoiding afk while refusing to participate or surrender for the rest of the game. This kind of shit has been happening in 90% of my games since the season ended. Not a fan of the changes so far either for preseason so I really doubt i'll be doing season 4. Oh well tho, at least I got to silver 1.
Junglers are now obsolete. 2 1 2 will be the new meta, double targons top and bot. Calling it now.
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Tranny Chaser
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I'm not surprised that Relic Shield is overpowered. I've been waiting to build that thing for weeks. What I'm surprised about is that it didn't even take a single day for it to be the full meta. It's impressive, really. Good work on the part of the community on this one.
Xalara
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If that's the case expect Riot to change it so that jungle is viable. That meta would be effin boring to watch e-Sports wise.
Playing now is like leveling 1-30. Everyone is running around with ridiculous 2v2 lanes and theres nonstop action.
Sidian
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Wait, how are Junglers obsolete? I've done about 4 jungle games today and each time I was usually 2nd or 3rd on the team gold wise. Also with Vision control being so brutal early game since everybody buys gold items, there are less wards which means ganks are much easier to pull off.
Either way, I expect that Relic Shield will probably get a small nerf because it seems to be the best of all the gold items. All they have to do is change the passive part of it. Maybe make it so it only stacks if you haven't killed a minion in so long. Currently it's just constantly stacking every 30 seconds no matter what.
Either way, I expect that Relic Shield will probably get a small nerf because it seems to be the best of all the gold items. All they have to do is change the passive part of it. Maybe make it so it only stacks if you haven't killed a minion in so long. Currently it's just constantly stacking every 30 seconds no matter what.
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Tranny Chaser
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I lost a whole mess today but it was all kinds of fun. I hope things stay as they are for at least a few weeks before Riot starts monkeyhammering things back in to place.
The joke with Relic Shield is that the other two support items are crazy good. The second it gets nerfed League of Nomad's Medallion will begin. And then after that all the mages going bot can build Frostfang.
I'm booked solid for at least 3 months.
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Ya the amount of gold junglers get now is ridiculous.
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That's what I've been building so far.
ronne
Nǐ hǎo, yǒu jīn zi ma?
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Start relic, get a leash at first buff, toplane partner helps with 2nd buff, then go bully the shit out of top lane forever.
Sidian
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Vi is even more disgusting with this new jungle. You still pretty much do the same build path before this patch but now you just get so much extra gold from the passive on ancient golem. Also, Wight goes down fairly quick with her since her W is amazing single target dmg. With Vi, I'd usually always go Golem > Tabis > Spirit Visage, now I basically throw a Bruta after Tabis because the gold is flowing so much easier. Beforehand I'd only go Bruta if I was getting some kills, now it doesn't really matter if you're getting kills.
Was against a duo top as well, both of them started that Relic Shield > Targons. My top lane was an Irelia though, and she can last hit under tower very easily so she wasn't doing that bad. Although I think they messed up because nobody on their team took smite, so every buff/dragon/baron was mine. Although, even if one of the top lane duos took smite I was still up on levels from them so I still should have been able to smite better.
Either way, it's neat that it works but I still think they'll have to do something with that Relic because it appears to be the only gold item anybody is getting because of how good it is compared to the others. Also, I feel if you do a 2-1-2 you need someone to run smite, which is a double edge sword because duo lane = less xp so you should be behind the jungle in levels and thus have a worse smite. It also means you have one less exhaust/ignite in your duo lane so your kill potential won't be as good. You alsoneedto crush your lane otherwise I will just gank mid and bot over and over and take dragons when possible and get everyone else ahead.
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It was also crazy because I wasn't sure what to do with myself when there was no enemy jungle. It got to the point where I would do My Wolves > My Wight > gank bot > enemy golems > enemy wraiths > gank mid > my wraiths > my golems > gank top > enemy wight > enemy wolves > gank mid, etc etc etc. I was just doing like figure 8s constantly, but damn was it fun. Made me wish I was like Shyvana, Yi or Mundo because you could power farm the fuck outta that lol.
Was against a duo top as well, both of them started that Relic Shield > Targons. My top lane was an Irelia though, and she can last hit under tower very easily so she wasn't doing that bad. Although I think they messed up because nobody on their team took smite, so every buff/dragon/baron was mine. Although, even if one of the top lane duos took smite I was still up on levels from them so I still should have been able to smite better.
Either way, it's neat that it works but I still think they'll have to do something with that Relic because it appears to be the only gold item anybody is getting because of how good it is compared to the others. Also, I feel if you do a 2-1-2 you need someone to run smite, which is a double edge sword because duo lane = less xp so you should be behind the jungle in levels and thus have a worse smite. It also means you have one less exhaust/ignite in your duo lane so your kill potential won't be as good. You alsoneedto crush your lane otherwise I will just gank mid and bot over and over and take dragons when possible and get everyone else ahead.
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It was also crazy because I wasn't sure what to do with myself when there was no enemy jungle. It got to the point where I would do My Wolves > My Wight > gank bot > enemy golems > enemy wraiths > gank mid > my wraiths > my golems > gank top > enemy wight > enemy wolves > gank mid, etc etc etc. I was just doing like figure 8s constantly, but damn was it fun. Made me wish I was like Shyvana, Yi or Mundo because you could power farm the fuck outta that lol.