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Lasch

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That was a really impressive win by C9. They were crushing fnatic until that na baron, and managed to come back.


And I still don't know what LGD's game plan vs. TSM was.
 

skrala

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Man not enough was made about that Incarnation bait into that last fight, C9 set that fight up perfectly. Incredible play by them so far.
 

Khane

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I don't think I've seen a post game interview with Lemonnation where he didn't swear. Haha.

We'll see what happens when teams start banning azir and tristana.
 

WhatsAmmataU_sl

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I don't think I've seen a post game interview with Lemonnation where he didn't swear. Haha.

We'll see what happens when teams start banning azir and tristana.
Incarnations play is changing the whole landscape of these C9 games. If they ban azir then they are also presumably banning veigar otherwise the azir ban is just a waste. Incarnation can still go Viktor or Orianna for wave clear and team fights. If they ban trist for 3rd ban then balls is gauranteed to get Gangplank or Darius or Lulu. Anytime a player draws 2 bans you are doing so much to win champ select.
 

skrala

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Yeah I don't think you can really ban out their play style, you just have to beat it (like KOO just did). If you ban azir/trist it just gives them a priority pick top, and they can play ori/veigar along with jinx for the exact same push/zone control style.
 

Khane

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I just wonder if C9 will be as adept at playing around those champions other champions if teams start banning out Azir and Trist.
 
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Jinx can replace trist in the comp easily. Then you have to give mid veigar or ori to them which do basically the same thing as Azir for their strat. Then you have gp popping up who is just straight broken. Beating c9 is going to mean outplaying them not out drafting them it seems.
 

Sidian

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Trist has much better peel then Jinx though, so he can't be as aggro. Trist you can pop your E on the tower, hit it a few times and you chunk it and you're somewhat safe because if somebody tries to flash / cc you then you just jump/buster shot away. Doesn't work that was with Jinx, you sit back with Rockets hitting the tower sure, but it's also a lot more dangerous. Same with Azir, walk up, Solder the tower, boom tons of damage. You also have the great disengage with his ult and his mobility & poke with solders is insane. Compare that to Veigar who has a nice CC with his stun but his overall range is lacking. Plus if you don't land your stun it's fairly hard for veigar to get far enough into the enemy backline to blow up their AP or ADC.

I hope c9 goes far. CLG, C9 & Origen baby!
 

TJT

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Yeah I don't think you can really ban out their play style, you just have to beat it (like KOO just did). If you ban azir/trist it just gives them a priority pick top, and they can play ori/veigar along with jinx for the exact same push/zone control style.
I think you're confused. CLG played KOO, not C9.
 
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Trist has much better peel then Jinx though, so he can't be as aggro. Trist you can pop your E on the tower, hit it a few times and you chunk it and you're somewhat safe because if somebody tries to flash / cc you then you just jump/buster shot away. Doesn't work that was with Jinx, you sit back with Rockets hitting the tower sure, but it's also a lot more dangerous. Same with Azir, walk up, Solder the tower, boom tons of damage. You also have the great disengage with his ult and his mobility & poke with solders is insane. Compare that to Veigar who has a nice CC with his stun but his overall range is lacking. Plus if you don't land your stun it's fairly hard for veigar to get far enough into the enemy backline to blow up their AP or ADC.

I hope c9 goes far. CLG, C9 & Origen baby!
Yes and no. We already saw what veigar does in a comp like this in game one. He drops horizon tower dies, or person caught in horizon dies. I would argue veigar is better for the actual seige then azir is. He would also make jinx more safe. Azir is better in straight up fights though. You also have to remember getting rid of azir plus trist means giving them gp most likely. Which means even more seige control with barrels and barrage.

To beat them you have to snowball your mid or bot very hard so they can't get in to the siege game.
 

kitsune

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Loving the worlds so far. Since it correlated with the new PoE league starting, I've been watching it endlessly all weekend while grinding. Bummed about fnatic sucking but pleasantly surprised that C9 and Origen are looking great. CLG are ok as well, hard to say at the moment since their last game was the biggest stomp so far in the tournament.