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Sidian

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Lissandra looks amazing. Now, do I really want to spend the extra 1300ip or whatever to first day buy her or just wait a week til she drops to 6300...hmmmmm

I love AP mids, I love roaming, I love playing aggressive. Seems she fits right into my playstyle.
 

Ravishing

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she'll probably be relegated to support unless she somehow becomes really bursty. Most cc mages become supports (zyra, morg). Only reason lux isnt primarily support is because of her laser. Mid lane is usually required to be high burst so as to carry teams, cc mages rarely fit the bill.
 

Sidian

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she'll probably be relegated to support unless she somehow becomes really bursty. Most cc mages become supports (zyra, morg). Only reason lux isnt primarily support is because of her laser. Mid lane is usually required to be high burst so as to carry teams, cc mages rarely fit the bill.
Oh yeah, most likely. Plus her passive gives her a free spellcast every so often, which would be perfect just to use to harass bot lane whenever it's up. Once you're 6 you can teleport (E) into the enemy, R to stun, W to root, then Q to slow them. Sounds pretty broken actually.

It also depends on the Cooldowns of all her abilities. I'm assuming her E is going to have a long CD since it's a teleport. But her Q and W should be fairly short. Build Tanky AP with a Liandries and you could do work, especially since everything does a movement slow which means more dmg from the Liandries.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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Man, did they ever butcher the shit out of Karma. The "remake" is a total abomination. At least she used to have a unique playstyle and I could freely own face with her in Dominion and 3's where I was allowed to build AP. Now she's just a boring AP mid with a shitty pew-pew skillshot and a weak ass shield. No more burst and she can't support for shit. Seriously sometimes I think Riot devs don't even play the game.
 

ronne

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Yea she seems pretty awful. She's a very generic AP mid now with no real ultimate. There is nothing left supporty about her at all.
 

drtyrm

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You don't need support Karma when THRESH exists. I love playing this champ. I'm actually going into games requesting support.

Also, this was a sick week for free champions. I got to play Lux, Diana, Renekton and Orianna.
 

Golt_sl

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Yea she seems pretty awful. She's a very generic AP mid now with no real ultimate. There is nothing left supporty about her at all.
I dunno if I'd go THAT far, but I think she's not really a top choice versus say Lulu or Thresh. I mean, a mantra'd shield is like a weaker version of locket of solari + shurelya's, which really isn't THAT bad. And her line thing that roots people or w/e (sorry I don't know her abilities that well) is a pretty nice anti-gank tool as well as chase mechanic - even gives vision in bushes for those times you'd wanna drop a ward if they are attempting to juke. I will admit that I don't have much experience with her before the rework.. but I think she can still support. Plus if she's that awful I'm sure riot will tweak things.
 

ronne

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Plus if she's that awful I'm sure riot will tweak things.
Tell that to rengar/sion/ww/poppy/gangplank/sivir/olaf/heimer/urgot/etc/etc/etc.

I don't have much faith in them to make small balance/qol changes to underpowered/underplayed champions at all unfortunately. I think the rework was probably a step in the right direction, but I'm afraid she's just going to sit like this for another X months and still mean nothing.
 
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Trundle up next for butchering. Looks like they are removing his CC reduction and attack damage steal... My favorite character too. So much for trundle the unstoppable troll. Get stunned/rooted/whatevered bro.
 

ronne

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Yea I'm not sure about the tenacity removal either. They are adding more ias to it I guess to compensate, but I think it's probably an overall nerf.
 

Amzin

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They buffed the everloving shit out of Trundle's ult though, which was really his shining weakness before. The tenacity/passive nerf sucks hard though. Still, the rework numbers rarely hold for more than a few days so hopefully his passive will get restored and he'll end up better than he is now (I like him now honestly, just hate his "ult" )
 
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You know he might end up being stronger, but I really like the fact that he is so squirrely in contaminate now. Losing 40% Tenacity kills that. Slow on Q + higher attack speed means he will still be a boss chaser, but his escape ability is going to get murdered.
 

Bain

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I actually like Karma after the rework. I think her numbers need to be adjusted some, but overall I find her very fun to play with her new W and low CD poke.
 

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Trundle up next for butchering. Looks like they are removing his CC reduction and attack damage steal... My favorite character too. So much for trundle the unstoppable troll. Get stunned/rooted/whatevered bro.
Pretty sure his Q isn't getting nerfed. His ult changes are pretty damn good. Also, I just noticed that with the changes he now is one of six? champions that has zero AP scaling.

King's Tribute ( Passive )
Now heals for flat 2% instead of 2/3/4/5/6%.

Chomp ( Q )
No changes.

Frozen Domain ( W )
Duration lowered to 6 seconds from 8.
Attack Speed increase is now 20/35/50/65/80 up from 20/30/40/50/60.
No longer grants CC reduction, instead increases healing and regen from all sources by 8/11/14/17/20%
Cooldown now 16/15/14/13/12 instead of 15 at all ranks.
Mana cost reduced to 50 from 60.

Pillar of Ice ( E )
Now slows for 35% at all ranks changed from 25/30/35/40/45%.

Subjugate ( R )
Now steals 10/12.5/15% of their max health and 20% of armor and MR instead of 100/175/250 ( +.6 AP) and 15/20/25% of Armor and MR
Second part of the drain, which doubles the stats drained from the first part, now happens over 5 seconds down from 6 seconds
Drained Stats "slowly loses" stats after drain ends and target's resistances "slowly return over 5 seconds after the drain effect ends".
Actually, today's PBE update is changing his Q and is giving a tiny bit of AP scaling to his ult.

Trundle
Chomp ( Q ) now briefly slows his target ( no value listed qq )
Chomp ( Q ) now deals 10/35/60/85/110 damage changed from 30/45/60/75/90.
Pillar of Ice ( E ) now slows for 25/30/35/40/45 from 35% at all ranks.
Subjugate ( R ) now has a ~.01 AP ratio. Might be lower but at 100 AP I got 1% bonus drain.
Subjugate ( R ) secondary drain now lasts and dimishes over 4 seconds instead of 5.
 

Amzin

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They added an unspecified slow % to his Q now and his pillar is the same slow % scaling it was, apparently that was a tooltip error (same with his passive not showing anything more than 2% all game). His ult now has a .01 AP ratio though :p
 

Sidian

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I'm a trundle noob, but does that mean he instantly drains 15% of their max HP, then another 15% over the next 5 seconds? As well as 20% of their Ar/MR then basically another 20% over the next 5 seconds?

Shit, I don't even recall what his ult does now, I think I've played trundle like...once or twice since I started playing league a year ago lol.