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I would have thought curse would be looking better with EDward, but man, Vulcan just derped them hard. TSM v Coast wasn't a surprise since Coast is going with a different mid.
As an ADC main, I would much prefer a lulu/zyra over a lux. Lulu/Zyra supply better zoning and more chances to create happenings.
As an ADC main, I would much prefer a lulu/zyra over a lux. Lulu/Zyra supply better zoning and more chances to create happenings.
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I'm calling it now, Karma sleeper OP. They've buffed her numbers now so many times that despite her new kit being totally retarded they've managed to brute force her into viability. With her mantra W now restoring 40% of missing health AND having a 1.2 AP ratio along with her E bug being fixed where it wasn't applying the additional AP ratio from mantra (and they only realized this a few weeks ago after so many buffs), she's going to be a 1vs1 queen. Doesn't wash the dirty taste from my mouth that they took a very unique champ (both in terms of model and kit) and turned her into "generic AP Mid", but if you're looking for some free Elo go play her before they inevitably nerf her.
I just went against Karma mid as Kayle mid, I didn't think she was too OP. She derped my jungler and took double buffs in a 2v2 trade, but she didn't stay too far ahead. Granted I doubt she was a confident and comfortable Karma player.
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Yeah, wait until people get more XP with her or she is in the hands of a good player.. I'm just saying from a numbers standpoint she's been pushed into the stratosphere. She's literally gotten a buff in every patch since April. Decreased mana costs, decreased cooldowns, increased damage, and now a fairly decent self heal. Despite a 900+ page thread on the LoL forum from Karma players raging at the remake and asking for a better kit (or one more similar to old Karma), Riot has insisted she's just undertuned and so has been throwing number buff after number buff at her.
Karma looks pretty decent. Shields, slows, some damage. Did that shit used to be so weak that no one cared?
If you stack some mana regen, some AP, that W can really fucking hurt. With some CDR, that's like a 4s CD that has a slow that you can almost spam.
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She used to imho have the most unique kit in the league. A .8AP ratio shield that could be empowered to do AOE damage with the same ratio, a .7AP AoE dmg cone Q that when empowered also healed any ally in the AoE, and a .7AP ratio tether W that could be attached to ally or enemy, slowing/speeding and doing damage to anybody crossing the tether. Oh yeah, her passive at lvl 18 and at 30% health also gave her an extra 130 AP. She was widely considered as UP because she couldn't fit a dedicated role in Summoner's rift. She could support but needed AP (which is a no no), and though she was a lane bully mid, she couldn't carry as well as a dedicated AP carry late game. However on a map where she could build AP like dominion or TT, she was pure beast in the right hands. No joke you could drop a 750HP shield late game that did 750 AOE dmg followed by an AOE Q doing 600 dmg that also healed all your front liners for 300 or so HP. Old Karma with low health and some AP could 100-0 most squishies. Morello wanted her team heal gone and her W mechanic was "bad" because other players needed to know how to make the best use of it, so now they remade her into a bland AP poke mid.
In any case, she's very much OP right now from a laning and 1vs 1 aspect. You either shield to initiate and dmg soak, W to root, then use Mantra Q to land your big nuke that they can't escape because of your W. If low on life repeat except mantra your W instead of your Q.
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Yeah, pretty much this. There's a 900+ page thread on the LoL forums, mainly from previous Karma players, ranting about how her "revamp" pretty much deleted Old Karma as the new one has nothing in common with the old except for the shield which now has a .5AP ratio instead of .8. Morello basically said her team heal was "unfun" and her passive was "trollish" so she necessitated a complete gutting. So now you just run around spamming Q endlessly instead.. Her biggest problem now is that her main harass tool (Q) is also the only way she can clear minions, which means simultaneously keeping the wave at bay while harassing your opponent is quite problematic.
I tried Karma out last night as a bottom lane support and if I get a decent build down, it might be pretty fucking awesome.
Play her like an aggressive Janna. I was playing with Miss Fortune and shielding her with extra speed just to initiate, then toss out an empowered Q to slow is just devastating. It doesn't hurt either that your Q is on a really short CD as well. The one skill that is useless was my W since I hardly got in range. Then again I only played a few games and the first two had issues since one game our Mid DC'd at the start of the game and couldn't log back in, and then someone who I won't name fed Brand with 5 kills in like 12 minutes. Ahem.
Third game we stomped on them and we never got to a team fight phase where I can stay in the pack and use W properly as well as empowered E. Fucking AOE shielding + Damage is sick though.
I think the key to Karma might be getting boots earlier than a normal support build just so you can poke and W properly early and mid game.
Play her like an aggressive Janna. I was playing with Miss Fortune and shielding her with extra speed just to initiate, then toss out an empowered Q to slow is just devastating. It doesn't hurt either that your Q is on a really short CD as well. The one skill that is useless was my W since I hardly got in range. Then again I only played a few games and the first two had issues since one game our Mid DC'd at the start of the game and couldn't log back in, and then someone who I won't name fed Brand with 5 kills in like 12 minutes. Ahem.
Third game we stomped on them and we never got to a team fight phase where I can stay in the pack and use W properly as well as empowered E. Fucking AOE shielding + Damage is sick though.
I think the key to Karma might be getting boots earlier than a normal support build just so you can poke and W properly early and mid game.
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She's actually more of a top laner now with her W buff, followed by mid. She can do "ok" as support, but there are definitely better picks.
She absolutely needs max CDR and good mana regen, and because her Q applies slow Liandry's is a must have.
Core Build: Sorc boots or Ionian, Athene's, then Liandry's. From there just build based on enemy comp/build.
Also, you use E to maintain position to both land and maintain your W. More important to rush mana regen considering she's such a hog.
Went 4/6 with diana tonight doing mid/jungle. It would have been 5/6 but my team thought it would be funny to /ff because they had a DC(even though we were ahead by a ton). The game we lost we should have won at 30 minutes, but my team decided that they would rather spread out than farm. So fucking infuriating. We had baron, killed 2 of their team(rengar/lux) and had an open inhib in mid. Jayce goes and farms top, cait runs straight to the inhib at 30%, aatrox goes to their blue at full hp, and I run to the minion wave in mid thats frozen at their first tier turret. Cait dies(no surprise), jayce and aatrox are in base, my wave makes it to the inhib but gets cleared instantly. 25 minutes later we lose. I want to fucking murder idiots through the computer.
edit: This game isn't hard to understand, the basic concepts of what you should and should not do are apparant to my friend who is lvl12 and just picked up the game. Yet these people who are somehow gold and lvl30 with a few seasons under their belts can't fucking figure out shit.
edit: This game isn't hard to understand, the basic concepts of what you should and should not do are apparant to my friend who is lvl12 and just picked up the game. Yet these people who are somehow gold and lvl30 with a few seasons under their belts can't fucking figure out shit.
