League Of Legends

enzie_sl said:

That's... sort of the point man. If you aren't even noticing it happening, you probably aren't doing anything to prevent it from happening. You can't just go 'oh, team fed 13 kills, not my fault'. I guarantee there's games you went 0-4 to start and got mad at your teammates (probably the jungler) for not 'helping'.

For example, if you are playing mid and you don't understand minion control/lane dynamics and back at the wrong time.. it can give the enemy mid roam time to go gank a lane. Or, if you see them leave, either push up the lane to take a tower or follow him to counter gank.

Just winning in CS, or going 2-0 in your lane doesn't mean you 'won' your lane if it didn't translate into anything to help the team win. Most people that feed do so because they underestimate their opponents, most likely after having some amazing game where they were fed, so they play as if they are still fed in the next game. If you actually help them to GET fed, they do just fine.

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Honestly, you can't save a good amount of people. I count a win as ganking other lanes successfully, jungler getting ganks off ect...

last...5? games i've been in have had people that give away first blood and then give away every objective such that their lane has like 2 towers down without outside help (other than jungler a couple times) in under 10 minutes. The people AFK and the game is done...tonight has been ASS for games.

I mean last night was nice, even losses felt good but tonight everyone seems to think they are gods gift to the LoL silver bracket. Team fights break out EVERY match with me playing moderator.

Sometimes I fucking hate this game, but I have to reach gold 5 at least...

RE: Solo Queue.

I take it semi-seriously because to me it is a game in itself. I want to achieve the highest division/tier that I can. Bragging rights are always nice, that's the point of most games. Sure, you are paired with 3 or 4 random players which means your MMR number may not mean THAT much, but to me it means I was able to brave solo queue and achieved a certain "level". Right now I'm Gold II. When the League system was implemented I was immediately placed in Silver I. It took me 1,584 games to get promoted to Gold V. Here is my post July 1st when it happened:http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.p...l=1#post262415. Since then I've played 54 games and without skipping any tiers I've been promoted 3 more times to sit currently in Gold II.

Has much changed in my playstyle? Perhaps maybe, but imo not much. Silver/Bronze is half based on luck. Once you break free of it your games tend to rely on mostly skill. I rarely run across the same amount of trolls & afks that I did in Silver. Sure, Gold DOES have them, but the quantity has diminished tremendously. I was determined to achieve Gold V no matter how long it took. Over 1,500 games is fucking absurd to me to even think about, but that's apparently what it took.

Now that I'm progressing through gold at a steady clip, I of course have my sights on getting to Plat. I haven't hit a major losing spree in a long time, my largest so far is a 5 game lose spree since being promoted to gold, but then I won 6 in a row right after that. In Silver I had 10-15 game lose streaks multiple times, usually after hitting Silver I. They would be really bad and spread over multiple days. If I can avoid these major sprees then I think I have a chance to achieve Plat in under 100 games since being promoted.

The quality of player IS better at Gold then Silver, however, there are plenty of Silver ranked players that could easily contend in Gold+, except they are stuck. Elo Hell DOES exist, I don't care what anyone says. Eidal is trying to prove a point yet had the worst score on his team. I do believe in taking structures to win games, but you need to give credit where it is due, too, everyone on your team had better scores which allowed you to split push more successfully due to the enemy team actually being killed by your team. If you have a 7/6/8 record in bronze then you probably aren't much better than those players. I find this "test" amusing and await to see truly how long you can endure the luck-fest that is Bronze/Silver. I expect you'll be returning to Normals really soon.

Arbitrary_sl said:

If you have that kind of fortitude you need to channel it into something else. That is positively Herculean.

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Meh, I work about 60 hours a week across 2 different jobs, married, dog, house... LoL has been the only game I've played since I stopped GW2. (ok, I sneak in some Minecraft while at work)... The numbers get to be outrageous when its the only thing atm. I prefer LoL to doing an MMO because a LoL game is an easily quantifiable chunk of time allotted. A game runs 35mins avg. There have been 217 days since the preseason which means I average 7.5 games per day. I tend to get 1-2 days a week when the wife is working where I can play for 8+ hours and might get in 15 games or so, most weekdays I play late nights for ~3 hours and get in 5-6 games if they are in the 20-40 min range. Fortitude is definitely something I don't lack, I tend to accomplish whatever I set out to do

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Sidian_sl said:

I think that's just hard to say. Every player in this game obviously thinks they are better then where they are ranked at. There isn't a single person in this game that believes they should be at a lower league and it's always much easier to just blame your team or blame ELO hell when you lose.

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Maybe you mis-read what I said, I definitely agree the majority of Silver/Bronze players are likely at that skill level, I simply stated that there are plenty of players *stuck* in these tiers that could contend at the higher brackets. Gold players are not *that* much better than silver, you just tend to eliminate a lot of the bullshit losses in gold. Less AFKs, less players with only 3 ranked games played, less trolls, etc. Good Silver players (of which I've encountered many) are about equal to the average gold players. There are plenty of bad silver players that do not deserve to advance. I'd say Silver is probably a 70-30 split (70% deserve to be there / 30% deserve to advance). This is just from my observations after 1500+ games played there.

Wizardhawk_sl said:

If you are playing bot lane as a duo ADC + support, what do you do the first 5 minutes of game time (from 2 minutes when creeps arrive in the lanes to 7 minute mark where I mention the 13 to 1)? You spend those 5 minutes ganking their jungle, ganking top lane, saving your mid from a gank, gank their jungle again, save your mid again, save your mid a third time then save top once more, all while outplaying the enemy adc too? Well at least I have my work cut out for me.

Maybe you're right tho and i'm just horrible at the game and have no concept of how it works or how to win or what a team is because god knows there's no such thing as trolls in LoL or any other online game.

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If its 13-1 at 7 mins than yea.. not much you can do about that. Game is *probably* a loss (though not always, if you have a late-game team comp you could maybe turn it around). Definitely have those games though were every lane loses. Jungler can't help everyone everytime, I hate when I'm jungling and both top/bot lose and continually die, its like opposite ends of the map and you just need to choose. Lanes need to be able to contain the damage but sometimes players will just keep dying over and over... Those are the annoying ones. Its fine if ONE lane gets raped and starts 0-4 after 5mins, it happens to all of us, but if multiple lanes are doing it then you have serious issues and its definitely not your fault.