New support nerfs are fucking retarded at first glance.
No reason not to play fiddledicks or annie support now.
No reason not to play fiddledicks or annie support now.
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Frenzied Wombat
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So happy about the Nidalee nerf. AP Nidalee (at least in Dominion) has to be the cheapest champ there is, sitting in the brush all day throwing spears that chunk 70% of a squishies life late game. One hit is all it takes to force mr.squish back to fountain thereby enabling a 4vs3 at top.
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"We want junglers to have more gold so we are nerfing the gold efficiency of every jungle item and for carry/farm oriented junglers we went ahead and flushed Wriggles Lantern completely down the toilet."
Don't like even a tiny bit what they did to Spectral Wraith and Wriggles Lantern. Wriggles is completely and utterly unusable.
Don't like even a tiny bit what they did to Spectral Wraith and Wriggles Lantern. Wriggles is completely and utterly unusable.
Frenzied Wombat
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Maybe I haven't read in depth enough yet, but am I correct in my assumptions that they have just globally nerfed supports simply because they will earn more gold now?? Doesn't that translate into "we realized that supports could actually do damage if they could earn real gold and buy items, hence all their historical AP ratios were simply meant as a teaser--we never thought they would be useful outside of Dominion. Now that they can actually capitalize on these ratios because they can afford to buy a Deathcap, we've decided playing a support would actually become enjoyable, hence we've nerfed these ratios and have focused on utility instead."
Great, so now I get gold but have nothing worth spending it on except defense and utility items?
RIP Dominion AP super burst Taric
Great, so now I get gold but have nothing worth spending it on except defense and utility items?
RIP Dominion AP super burst Taric
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You are looking at it the wrong way. Janna and Sona are going to drop in popularity and they really kept bot lane honest. Think of all the shit you can do now that those two gold stars are going to be warming a bench. Think of how ridiculously tanky Blitz and Leona and Alistar can get. Think of all the other awesome mages you can take bottom. Orianna, Lux, Zyra, Fiddle, Annie, Elise, and Morgana all spring to mind. And most importantly -
NOW DAWNS THE ERA OF SUPPORT RENGAR
I will light up anyone taking some squishy loser into that lane.
NOW DAWNS THE ERA OF SUPPORT RENGAR
I will light up anyone taking some squishy loser into that lane.
Amzin
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Most of the support changes definitely feel like a huge miss as far as competitiveness goes. But then you have Nami who got some pretty solid boosts. If Janna, Taric, etc. don't see their numbers go up they're just going to stay on the bench forever though. Taric moreso than he was even.
Edit re Wriggles: Nobody. Apparently Trick2G likes the new Wriggles situationally, and while he's a high-tier he's not one of the top Korean teams so we'll see whether it actually functions differently than it looks like it will (that is, shittily)
Edit re Wriggles: Nobody. Apparently Trick2G likes the new Wriggles situationally, and while he's a high-tier he's not one of the top Korean teams so we'll see whether it actually functions differently than it looks like it will (that is, shittily)
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It was a situational purchase before and had some synergy with Lee Sin but yes, it was pretty bad. If you look at new Wriggles you'll see the only sustain on it is +10 health per auto. For it being the big farm jungle item it doesn't even sustain you through the jungle. If you ever have to fight someone else you've got 1800 gold devoted to armor and attack speed and no other combat stats. It's a trap item. It encourages junglers to afk farm to try and make up for the gold deficit they put themselves at for buying the piece of garbage. Junglers don't need encouragement to do that.
ronne
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I really don't think Riot has any idea what they are doing with this. New wriggles is a complete joke, xp in the jungle is nerfed, every "traditional" support is going to get instantly benched in favor of annie/lux/fiddle/etc.
What the fuck is even happening.
What the fuck is even happening.
Amzin
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There was quite a bit yea, a lot of it was due to full-retard balancing of the new/reworked items (BotRK, Black Cleaver, Elder Lizard). This is a pretty big change compared to that. That's why there's at LEAST 4 weeks of "preseason", a.k.a. beta testing, for all this shit.
Riot enforces meta: People cry that they enforce the meta.
Riot shakes up meta: People cry that they shook up the meta.
Riot shakes up meta: People cry that they shook up the meta.
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Tranny Chaser
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I like shake ups. I like almost everything in this update. I just don't think they'll stick to it. I think they'll end up nerfing most/all of the support items and a ton more support oriented champions because they in fact don't want things like 400 AP support Annie or Zyra in the game.
For whoever was asking about IF Olaf Was viable, I retract my previous statement of him being a dumpster fire sorta. He still can't really top lane but you can cheese the jungle really hard with him. Run offensive masteries, full ad reds/quints, and start dorans blade. Then just farm or get the level three gank and buy two more dorans. Yes three dorans and boots to start. At this point you pretty much can't lose a 1v1 and just tower dive and lane camp like its going out of style. Or jungle invade as long as your lanes are aware you are doing it.
You can then go tanky or carry, but its kind of scary the sustain + damage + health you can get at level five and then forgot anyone trying to 1v1 you once you hit six. His top laning is still too mana hungry to pull a build like this off. You pretty much live on your blue buff for q spam and then later the ancient golem.
You can then go tanky or carry, but its kind of scary the sustain + damage + health you can get at level five and then forgot anyone trying to 1v1 you once you hit six. His top laning is still too mana hungry to pull a build like this off. You pretty much live on your blue buff for q spam and then later the ancient golem.
Teekey
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This would be the best idea, in my opinion. It seems like it would be much easier to do.
I just hope if they decide to upgrade the client they atleast keep it the same size and not go to full screen.
In Ranked or in Normals? I wouldn't give a fuck in Normals, but I would be annoyed in Ranked. However, I rarely bitch - and I certainly wouldn't bitch BEFORE he's even doing poorly. Most games are decided by which team has the melt down first...why create that possibility before the game even gets going.
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Tranny Chaser
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The actual shit talking isn't what pissed me off. The problem I have is the amount of information that can be obtained through usage of third party websites data mining the client and the impact of that information on the behavior of players. Who someone queues with, what runes a player chooses to use, and what masteries a player chooses to use, should not be information that is obtainable through a third party website before or during a game. Either everyone should have that information as provided by the client or it should be unavailable.
Teekey
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Rune and Mastery builds are pretty standard, unless you're trying some gimmicky shit. Regardless, you can figure them out the instant you can target them and see their stats. I don't think being able to see it during load screen isthatgame breaking. I have the ability to do it and never do, because I don't find it that necessary.
The only piece of information from these websites that I find useful is who is a premade, simply because I can see who is most likely going to work together more. ADC and Jungle duo queued? Expect a lot of ganks in bottom lane.
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Tranny Chaser
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At LCS during loading do both sides get to tab out and look up the runes and masteries of each player on the opposing team? I don't know how it works but I really can't believe they get that information. I personally put considerable value in both consistency and in gamesmanship. If it's information people are supposed to have than alright. If it is information that is supposed to be kept secret than alright. But this third party website business is for the birds.