Legion

Sylas · Mar 28, 2017

Yeah going to concur. I just kinda assumed this season would deal with expelling the Shadow King and the fall out from doing so, is what fractures his mind and creates the multiple personalities. So season 2 is the start of the Dis-associative Identy Disorder which is what makes him, Legion. So far he's "just schizophrenic", but actually he's not. The whole time it's been A: he actually has powers, they aren't delusions, combined with B: The shadow king fucking up his memories, trying to drain enough power from him in order to completely possess him and take over his body.

Season 2 (and any further seasons) are still mostly in his head and still the complete mindfuck of season 1, but are dealing with the split personalities etc

a_skeleton_03 · Mar 28, 2017

Caliane said:
heh. yeah never too sure what the date is supposed to be

To me it feels like they are going with am ambiguous time period so they can be as retro or modern as they want to be. That is one part of it that I really like. It allows them to do things like have the one mutant carry a tommy gun while the bad guys use more modern weapons.

Ambiturner · Mar 28, 2017

Enzee said:
Damn.. until that chalkboard scene, I had totally forgotten who his father is supposed to be..

motherfucking Professor X! The bald figure and the battle with Shadow King reminded me. In some versions of the story, that's how Prof X loses the use of his legs. If they manage to get a cameo from Patrick Stewart (since McAvoy doesn't look old enough to be his dad) at some point, that would be amazing.

That's what made it funny when Dave was doing the "British accent" when he was speaking as his father. It sounded a lot more like a Patrick Stewart impression.

meStevo · Mar 29, 2017

Best 4 minutes of TV I've seen in quite some time.

Caliane · Mar 29, 2017

oddly weak finale.

Wombat · Mar 29, 2017

That wasn't as bad as Ep. 6, but I should have known that once they humanized the interrorgator, nothing was going to be resolved.

The Equinox didn't work for me either.

meStevo · Mar 30, 2017

Nowhere to go but down after last week... wtf was that after the credits though.

ex-genj · Mar 30, 2017

meh. My only thought during the tag was "do they really have the budget to book Plaza and Clement for season 2?"

Xevy · Mar 30, 2017

ex-genj said:
meh. My only thought during the tag was "do they really have the budget to book Plaza and Clement for season 2?"

... you think those are expensive actors? What?

How many of you cane rattlers screamed "SJW" at the screen of your retirement home when you saw Crispy was gay with an adopted black son? I felt a sea of triggers hit me like the explosion of Alderan and Obi Wan.

joz123 · Mar 30, 2017

I thought the ending was fine. It was just to set up next season which it did well.

Royal · Mar 30, 2017

Yeah this was like an after-finale finale. They probably didn't even tack on that after credit until the show was formally renewed a few weeks ago.

ex-genj · Mar 30, 2017

Xevy said:
... you think those are expensive actors? What?

I'd think they'd be in demand a lot but yeah neither was on screen a ton this season so who knows.

Xevy · Mar 30, 2017

I wonder if when David says the stars told him they loved him it was either A: Prof X talking to him or B: his mother is an alien psychic. I'm leaning towards B now.

Cantatus · Mar 30, 2017

Really looking forward to Jemaine Clement playing the villain next season. He was already doing a great job as Oliver.

Caliane said:
heh. yeah never too sure what the date is supposed to be. Fashion 60-70's. Tech does seem alot more modern. hospital is fairly modern. Drug talk scene. any of the drugs mentioned modern synthetics not made before some date?
The whole body CT scanner developed during the 70's. 1975 first non water immersion based..
The kind they have in the show, is decidedly even more modern. Particularly in terms of output. But, is this indicative of the show being in more modern times, or them having access to technology beyond the normal period. Like Cerebro, etc in xmen?

I've been trying to figure out if they're just trying to do a more ambiguous time period so they have a lot more flexibility with the aesthetics of the show similar to Gotham, or if this will tie into David's delusions somehow. Gotham, at least, tries to remain as ambiguous as possible by not really making references to modern things, but Legion seems to needlessly throw those types of references in. If the goal is to be ambiguous about when the show is set, why include Kerry and Cary listing off medications that didn't come out until the 80s and later? On the whole, the game they were playing really didn't contribute to the plot, so why include something that cracks the ambiguity, particularly when there are plenty of medications that came out earlier that they could've been naming?

meStevo said:
Nowhere to go but down after last week... wtf was that after the credits though.

Glad you mentioned there was a scene in the credits. I turned it off right when the credits began. Someone on Reddit pointed out that SWORD once sent an orb to monitor David (though it never captured him), so maybe there was something more to David's father saying the stars talked to him afterall.

Alex · Mar 30, 2017

Xevy said:
How many of you cane rattlers screamed "SJW" at the screen of your retirement home when you saw Crispy was gay with an adopted black son? I felt a sea of triggers hit me like the explosion of Alderan and Obi Wan.

I thought the same thing immediately. As soon as I saw he was gay I thought half the posts here would be bitching about how they could possibly make a character gay. Yet we're the only ones who mentioned anything. You surprise me again, FoH.

Ambiturner · Mar 31, 2017

Him being gay didn't seem like much of a stretch.

Hoss · Mar 31, 2017

Xevy said:
I wonder if when David says the stars told him they loved him it was either A: Prof X talking to him or B: his mother is an alien psychic. I'm leaning towards B now.

When did he say that? The last I remember hearing about the stars was when the crew went to find the old psychiatrist and they asked im "What did the stars say". The Dr, who wasn't really the doctor instead asked her "You love him, don't you?" There's no way jewfro knew what the Dr knew just because he had shape shifted into him.

In short, I don't remember ever learning what the stars said.

Ambiturner said:
Him being gay didn't seem like much of a stretch.

Is that because he was acting like a faggot when we saw him the first time?

Any more speculation on what that orb was other than SWORD?

Daezuel · Apr 1, 2017

This was probably my favorite thing I've seen on tv in as long as I can remember.

When Oliver started conducting Bolero I was tripping because I had just stumbled upon a Russian ballet performance of it a few weeks before. (I know gaaaaay')

Also, because it reminds me of

Enzee · Apr 2, 2017

Ok.. im more confused by some of the recent posts then i am at the show.
I guess i havent been paying close enough attention, but i dont remember them answering the "what did the stars say?" Part at all.
I also dont remember davids father having any speaking lines, beyond the scene where his face is in shadow and he read 'worlds angriest boy' to david, which was implied to be a false memory from shadow king.
Wtf was walter (jewfro)'s power btw? He shapr shifted once, and then was also bullet proof later?!? On that same note, does oliver have any powers (other then that smooth, panty dropping singing voice) outside the astral plane?
Lastly, the government guys referred to a 'peacekeeper' and then 'equinox' while watching everything. Guessing the orb thing is supposed to be one of those, unless it was a misdirect and shitty timing from some unknown entiry.

Cantatus · Apr 2, 2017

I'm pretty sure Walter was some sort of telepath. He seems to be able to get into people's heads, so I don't think he actually shape-shifted, just made others think that's what they were seeing. I can't remember him being bulltetproof, but that could've been something similar where he just made people see that.

I don't recall Oliver showing any powers outside of the astral plane. He might have the same powers outside it as he did inside, but then Melanie didn't have her powers inside the astral plane, so who knows? I would assume the fact that he got into the astral plane somehow and stayed there for a couple decades indicates he has some sort of mutant power though.

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