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Daidraco

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I dont think Raes is wrong - but it was a night and day difference between doing Albion at 1335 and 1348. Just that bit of difference made it much easier to survive. When I did him at reset at 1356 I could basically walk through his swipes and take only minimal damage and laugh it off.

Point being, the amount of stats you get from ilvl progression is huge, even though the difference may look small just because it may only seem like a few lvls difference.
 

Raes

Vyemm Raider
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I dont think Raes is wrong - but it was a night and day difference between doing Albion at 1335 and 1348. Just that bit of difference made it much easier to survive. When I did him at reset at 1356 I could basically walk through his swipes and take only minimal damage and laugh it off.

Point being, the amount of stats you get from ilvl progression is huge, even though the difference may look small just because it may only seem like a few lvls difference.

Well, of course higher GS than the entry level means you do a bit more damage and take less. Rarity and grade of gear makes a good bit of difference as well. He was asking about the difference in effectiveness between 1346 and 1370. And since you tend do be doing things with the highest GS req you can, there's not much difference.
 

Daidraco

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On a separate note - Im looking for another class that I may like playing for a KT.

These are the classes I have ranked by my own pleasure in playing them.
Classes I like : Artillerist, Striker, Sharpshooter, Shadowhunter.
Classes that are "ok": Sorcerer, Berzerker, Gunlancer
Classes that I do NOT enjoy : Bard, Gunslinger.

Any suggestions? I was thinking Paladin, but I dont enjoy the buffs etc. type of gameplay. Gunlancer is fine inside of Chaos for example, but the build for Abyss and Guardians, although proper, just isnt fun gameplay for me.
 

Raes

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On a separate note - Im looking for another class that I may like playing for a KT.

These are the classes I have ranked by my own pleasure in playing them.
Classes I like : Artillerist, Striker, Sharpshooter, Shadowhunter.
Classes that are "ok": Sorcerer, Berzerker, Gunlancer
Classes that I do NOT enjoy : Bard, Gunslinger.

Any suggestions? I was thinking Paladin, but I dont enjoy the buffs etc. type of gameplay. Gunlancer is fine inside of Chaos for example, but the build for Abyss and Guardians, although proper, just isnt fun gameplay for me.

Lancemaster, Scouter or Reaper. Oh...wait... Maybe Summoner or Arcana...in like a month. :rolleyes:

Seriously, though, if you like Striker might as well try out one of the other fighters.
 

Gravel

Mr. Poopybutthole
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I really want to save my last two slots for lance master or reaper (or maybe scouter over lance if it doesn't get a rework since I've heard it's not great in PvE). Daid was trying to convince me to try artillerist back on like day 2 or 3, and his stories about being a tanky bitch makes it super tempting to try.
 

Cybsled

Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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They're slow as fuck and have a lot of animation locks when using abilities, but they are much tankier than most DPS as a result and their attacks tend to pack a pretty big punch.
 

Daidraco

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Energy Field with its 40% health shield and KB immunity makes the slow and animation lock negligible. Well itemized, good SP amount, runed up and gemmed up - the class is a GD beast.

But to the point, I think SG can have 800 for a character slot. Ive played the game more than enough that they can have just that small amount lol.
 

Mahes

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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Lancemaster, Scouter or Reaper. Oh...wait... Maybe Summoner or Arcana...in like a month. :rolleyes:

Seriously, though, if you like Striker might as well try out one of the other fighters.
Summoner is coming in 1 month?
 

Pyros

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Energy Field with its 40% health shield and KB immunity makes the slow and animation lock negligible. Well itemized, good SP amount, runed up and gemmed up - the class is a GD beast.

But to the point, I think SG can have 800 for a character slot. Ive played the game more than enough that they can have just that small amount lol.
I've bought one already even though I'm not using it yet, just so I have one free in advance, but yeah, while somewhat expensive in comparison to other game slots. BDO was 3$ iirc for slots, or maybe that was the sale price but they had sales on these often, DFO which is a much deeper P2W korean run game is only like 1$ per char slot and you start with a whooping 24 and they give them away for free all the time, but they do also have like 65 classes so you can fill that shit up pretty quick if you're an alt fiend like me.

I had one from gold preorder shit too, currently have 7/8 as a result. Maybe once they release the new classes they'll sell packs for them with slots bundled too we'll see. I do hope their "discussions" with smilegate and all that shit gets them to release both Arcana and Destroyer at the same time instead of spread out, cause I really don't care about Destroyer and I wouldn't mind having a random class to "level" on the side, as most of my alts are nearing the end of their stuff.

Summoner is coming in 1 month?
No, Arcana might, it was their original roadmap, but since they've said they're reworking the whole thing we don't really know, Summoner wasn't planned next month though, could be though we don't really know.
 

BoozeCube

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I have to say the brick wall in this game is getting to me along with the massive RNG fuckfest. I have still yet to see a single fucking yellow map after 2 months of this shit. The only one I have ever ran was the pity one Vold asked us to do in the guild.

The raids in this game are enjoyable for the 8 minutes a week you get to play with the guild. The rest of the time is solo adventure time while trading carries for alts. Oh did I mention alts? Yeah if you didn’t roll these fuckers up day one like the Veterans well get fuck retard because without 12 slots of faggots doing silver runs and already in T3 pumping your main enjoy never fucking progressing again. What if you don’t know what class to power pass? What to try out and play out of the 18+ with more on the way? Doesn’t matter the fact that you hesitated in making one means you are pretty much fucked forever.

So many in the guild have gone on and on about the resources and gold they have made from items.. Meanwhile even two or three days later you are lucky if you can vendor shit for one silver. The vast fucking chasm between the haves and the have nots only gets more massive and wider in this game. And I am not even talking about injecting money or pay to win although that seems to be huge as well but if you ignore that part and just sink in a massive number of hours it really doesn’t matter because the window to not take a giant meat rod of your turd biscuit has already passed.

You didn’t buy the $100 founder pack that Amazon doubled up on well get fucked retard because now you can spend 3x as much for nothing if you want character slots which you need to make as many alts as possible just for stupid shit like silver.

Oh you didn’t know you had to do this daily 436 days in a row to unlock skill points well get fucked again turbo tard… Oh and buy the way don’t do that quest on your main otherwise you aren’t getting leap stones once again buttfucking your progress forward. No you should have done that arbitrary quest on alt number #13 for efficiency. Oh you explored islands or picked up retard seeds well too bad dumbfuck because once again you have put yourself so fucking far behind you might as well uninstall this pig shit.

Follow this guide to unlock rapports because you need them too advance…. LOL just kidding you don’t have a skin or 13 of them we have banked to resell later so your virtue points are gimped as fuck and you just locked yourself.. lol all that rapport wasted you shouldn’t have followed that guide if you weren’t a platinum pack day one player with knowledge about the game.. once again get fucked retard.

Oh you learned books instead of selling them the first day.. once again lol what a dumb faggot they were 10k two days ago but now they are 1 gold.. you should have known better enjoy your face fucking as we jackhammer your throat until it’s bruised. Shame you didn’t master the AH and engraving and shit for the last 2 years on Russia servers.

Oh well at least you can buy shit for 100x more than we paid last week while selling shit for 1/100th of the cost. This pretty much sums up my feelings on this game today. There are some pretty fun aspects of the game and I don’t mind grinding MMO’s I have done plenty of that in many games over the years but the gap in this game is insurmountable if you don’t want to swipe credit cards just to access the content. While there are a few who are actually getting to enjoy the end game right now they are only the people with prior knowledge of the game. Pretty much everyone else is stuck on their Everquest hell level that never ends, broke as fuck with a horse sized dildo jammed so far up their shit pipe they can’t even sit down, and if you are lucky enough to break through that wall enjoy the fact that the 100k items shit suckers are selling today net you about 3gold in dismantling mats next week because you didn’t make your 67th alts and 3 steam accounts and the founders fuck you pack.
 
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Edaw

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Just have to play more. (Never played before early start - bought $15 pack - Haven't played AH at all. Got 1 yellow map so far.)

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Should hit t3 today.
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Have only done the first 2 dungeons on main and have 2 alts all in some lvl 2 guild i made the first day, so not even getting any benefit from that.

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Mahes

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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I have to say the brick wall in this game is getting to me along with the massive RNG fuckfest. I have still yet to see a single fucking yellow map after 2 months of this shit. The only one I have ever ran was the pity one Vold asked us to do in the guild.

The raids in this game are enjoyable for the 8 minutes a week you get to play with the guild. The rest of the time is solo adventure time while trading carries for alts. Oh did I mention alts? Yeah if you didn’t roll these fuckers up day one like the Veterans well get fuck retard because without 12 slots of faggots doing silver runs and already in T3 pumping your main enjoy never fucking progressing again. What if you don’t know what class to power pass? What to try out and play out of the 18+ with more on the way? Doesn’t matter the fact that you hesitated in making one means you are pretty much fucked forever.

So many in the guild have gone on and on about the resources and gold they have made from items.. Meanwhile even two or three days later you are lucky if you can vendor shit for one silver. The vast fucking chasm between the haves and the have nots only gets more massive and wider in this game. And I am not even talking about injecting money or pay to win although that seems to be huge as well but if you ignore that part and just sink in a massive number of hours it really doesn’t matter because the window to not take a giant meat rod of your turd biscuit has already passed.

You didn’t buy the $100 founder pack that Amazon doubled up on well get fucked retard because now you can spend 3x as much for nothing if you want character slots which you need to make as many alts as possible just for stupid shit like silver.

Oh you didn’t know you had to do this daily 436 days in a row to unlock skill points well get fucked again turbo tard… Oh and buy the way don’t do that quest on your main otherwise you aren’t getting leap stones once again buttfucking your progress forward. No you should have done that arbitrary quest on alt number #13 for efficiency. Oh you explored islands or picked up retard seeds well too bad dumbfuck because once again you have put yourself so fucking far behind you might as well uninstall this pig shit.

Follow this guide to unlock rapports because you need them too advance…. LOL just kidding you don’t have a skin or 13 of them we have banked to resell later so your virtue points are gimped as fuck and you just locked yourself.. lol all that rapport wasted you shouldn’t have followed that guide if you weren’t a platinum pack day one player with knowledge about the game.. once again get fucked retard.

Oh you learned books instead of selling them the first day.. once again lol what a dumb faggot they were 10k two days ago but now they are 1 gold.. you should have known better enjoy your face fucking as we jackhammer your throat until it’s bruised. Shame you didn’t master the AH and engraving and shit for the last 2 years on Russia servers.

Oh well at least you can buy shit for 100x more than we paid last week while selling shit for 1/100th of the cost. This pretty much sums up my feelings on this game today. There are some pretty fun aspects of the game and I don’t mind grinding MMO’s I have done plenty of that in many games over the years but the gap in this game is insurmountable if you don’t want to swipe credit cards just to access the content. While there are a few who are actually getting to enjoy the end game right now they are only the people with prior knowledge of the game. Pretty much everyone else is stuck on their Everquest hell level that never ends, broke as fuck with a horse sized dildo jammed so far up their shit pipe they can’t even sit down, and if you are lucky enough to break through that wall enjoy the fact that the 100k items shit suckers are selling today net you about 3gold in dismantling mats next week because you didn’t make your 67th alts and 3 steam accounts and the founders fuck you pack.
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I hope to never play another game where you have to actually have ALTS/Money to progress at a reasonable rate. I like to play ALTS to change up my play style and to try something different. The fact that you actually have to have them and that it is accepted kind of blows my mind. With other games, it allows more opportunity as your group might need a tank or healer. With this game there is no such thing as it is pretty much mandated. Oh sure, you could try to not have them but you could also slowly cut yourself because you want to feel something. It just takes to much time playing my main to also keep up with 3 other ALTS when I want to play my main.

Its a Korean game. As I posted on Throne and Liberty, if it has all the same mechanics, then I am honestly not interested anymore.

P.S. Seriously fuck a system that gives you objects to boost a success chance but if you fail, the percentage does not carry with the objects. What the fuck shit system is that kind of fuckery. It honestly becomes a

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With pretty graphics and some fun fighting mechanics which are only used 30% of the game time you play.
 

Raes

Vyemm Raider
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I have to say the brick wall in this game is getting to me along with the massive RNG fuckfest. I have still yet to see a single fucking yellow map after 2 months of this shit. The only one I have ever ran was the pity one Vold asked us to do in the guild.

The raids in this game are enjoyable for the 8 minutes a week you get to play with the guild. The rest of the time is solo adventure time while trading carries for alts. Oh did I mention alts? Yeah if you didn’t roll these fuckers up day one like the Veterans well get fuck retard because without 12 slots of faggots doing silver runs and already in T3 pumping your main enjoy never fucking progressing again. What if you don’t know what class to power pass? What to try out and play out of the 18+ with more on the way? Doesn’t matter the fact that you hesitated in making one means you are pretty much fucked forever.

So many in the guild have gone on and on about the resources and gold they have made from items.. Meanwhile even two or three days later you are lucky if you can vendor shit for one silver. The vast fucking chasm between the haves and the have nots only gets more massive and wider in this game. And I am not even talking about injecting money or pay to win although that seems to be huge as well but if you ignore that part and just sink in a massive number of hours it really doesn’t matter because the window to not take a giant meat rod of your turd biscuit has already passed.

You didn’t buy the $100 founder pack that Amazon doubled up on well get fucked retard because now you can spend 3x as much for nothing if you want character slots which you need to make as many alts as possible just for stupid shit like silver.

Oh you didn’t know you had to do this daily 436 days in a row to unlock skill points well get fucked again turbo tard… Oh and buy the way don’t do that quest on your main otherwise you aren’t getting leap stones once again buttfucking your progress forward. No you should have done that arbitrary quest on alt number #13 for efficiency. Oh you explored islands or picked up retard seeds well too bad dumbfuck because once again you have put yourself so fucking far behind you might as well uninstall this pig shit.

Follow this guide to unlock rapports because you need them too advance…. LOL just kidding you don’t have a skin or 13 of them we have banked to resell later so your virtue points are gimped as fuck and you just locked yourself.. lol all that rapport wasted you shouldn’t have followed that guide if you weren’t a platinum pack day one player with knowledge about the game.. once again get fucked retard.

Oh you learned books instead of selling them the first day.. once again lol what a dumb faggot they were 10k two days ago but now they are 1 gold.. you should have known better enjoy your face fucking as we jackhammer your throat until it’s bruised. Shame you didn’t master the AH and engraving and shit for the last 2 years on Russia servers.

Oh well at least you can buy shit for 100x more than we paid last week while selling shit for 1/100th of the cost. This pretty much sums up my feelings on this game today. There are some pretty fun aspects of the game and I don’t mind grinding MMO’s I have done plenty of that in many games over the years but the gap in this game is insurmountable if you don’t want to swipe credit cards just to access the content. While there are a few who are actually getting to enjoy the end game right now they are only the people with prior knowledge of the game. Pretty much everyone else is stuck on their Everquest hell level that never ends, broke as fuck with a horse sized dildo jammed so far up their shit pipe they can’t even sit down, and if you are lucky enough to break through that wall enjoy the fact that the 100k items shit suckers are selling today net you about 3gold in dismantling mats next week because you didn’t make your 67th alts and 3 steam accounts and the founders fuck you pack.

There's 3 basic reasons for what you are experiencing.

1.) AGS deciding at the last minute to launch with Tier 3.
2.) Streamers/Youtubers who played other versions and are throwing out "guides" like candy to get in the van, so people can try to do in a few months what took years.
3.) AGS and Smilegate setting the fucking stage for RMT bot heaven.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I may have played in RU for 2 years, but it's like 3-5 weeks at a time, with 2-3 month long breaks in between. Usually only coming back if I'm in between games and/or there's an event, or a new cool class. I'll jump in, set myself some rapport or skill point, or engraving or whatever goals, play the fuck out of it, then drop it when I get bored again.

The game doesn't really have a lot of what I consider content, it's just chores to keep people busy. Time gated chores, to try to keep you logging in every day. If I were you, I'd just take a break, at least until the big update next month. I'm already at the point where I'm letting my rested bars fill up before I do my daily chaos and guardians. Mostly just log in to do some gathering/crafting and chaos gate/field boss.
 

Amycus

Lord Nagafen Raider
845
102
Finally hit t3 on my main last night and completed Punika(which is trash). Have 4 alts at t2. As much as love the game, not having server transfer sucks ass. My brother and rl friends all quit, which is what has me playing on Zosma. I’ll never level a character manually again given how absurdly boring and tedious the questing is. Feels bad.
 

BoozeCube

The Wokest
<Prior Amod>
51,513
302,409
Just have to play more. (Never played before early start - bought $15 pack - Haven't played AH at all. Got 1 yellow map so far.)

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Have only done the first 2 dungeons on main and have 2 alts all in some lvl 2 guild i made the first day, so not even getting any benefit from that.

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I appreciate what you are saying and yes you have put in many hours but you won't really see what I'm talking about until you get in that 1340-1370 wall. Getting through T2 is a breeze by comparison.

There's 3 basic reasons for what you are experiencing.

1.) AGS deciding at the last minute to launch with Tier 3.
2.) Streamers/Youtubers who played other versions and are throwing out "guides" like candy to get in the van, so people can try to do in a few months what took years.
3.) AGS and Smilegate setting the fucking stage for RMT bot heaven.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I may have played in RU for 2 years, but it's like 3-5 weeks at a time, with 2-3 month long breaks in between. Usually only coming back if I'm in between games and/or there's an event, or a new cool class. I'll jump in, set myself some rapport or skill point, or engraving or whatever goals, play the fuck out of it, then drop it when I get bored again.

The game doesn't really have a lot of what I consider content, it's just chores to keep people busy. Time gated chores, to try to keep you logging in every day. If I were you, I'd just take a break, at least until the big update next month. I'm already at the point where I'm letting my rested bars fill up before I do my daily chaos and guardians. Mostly just log in to do some gathering/crafting and chaos gate/field boss.

I don't care who is at fault for the issues, if AGS sucks dick then so be it, but they are doing themselves a disservice and will continue to see a decline in this game. I don't think the west will take it up the asshole as hard as the Koreans will, I guess time will tell though. The botting fucks up this game pretty badly too and the sheer quantity of them if you make a new character and see these fuckers warping everywhere is also just sad and pathetic for a company the size of Amazon.
 

Gravel

Mr. Poopybutthole
39,393
129,555
I have to say the brick wall in this game is getting to me along with the massive RNG fuckfest. I have still yet to see a single fucking yellow map after 2 months of this shit. The only one I have ever ran was the pity one Vold asked us to do in the guild.

The raids in this game are enjoyable for the 8 minutes a week you get to play with the guild. The rest of the time is solo adventure time while trading carries for alts. Oh did I mention alts? Yeah if you didn’t roll these fuckers up day one like the Veterans well get fuck retard because without 12 slots of faggots doing silver runs and already in T3 pumping your main enjoy never fucking progressing again. What if you don’t know what class to power pass? What to try out and play out of the 18+ with more on the way? Doesn’t matter the fact that you hesitated in making one means you are pretty much fucked forever.

So many in the guild have gone on and on about the resources and gold they have made from items.. Meanwhile even two or three days later you are lucky if you can vendor shit for one silver. The vast fucking chasm between the haves and the have nots only gets more massive and wider in this game. And I am not even talking about injecting money or pay to win although that seems to be huge as well but if you ignore that part and just sink in a massive number of hours it really doesn’t matter because the window to not take a giant meat rod of your turd biscuit has already passed.

You didn’t buy the $100 founder pack that Amazon doubled up on well get fucked retard because now you can spend 3x as much for nothing if you want character slots which you need to make as many alts as possible just for stupid shit like silver.

Oh you didn’t know you had to do this daily 436 days in a row to unlock skill points well get fucked again turbo tard… Oh and buy the way don’t do that quest on your main otherwise you aren’t getting leap stones once again buttfucking your progress forward. No you should have done that arbitrary quest on alt number #13 for efficiency. Oh you explored islands or picked up retard seeds well too bad dumbfuck because once again you have put yourself so fucking far behind you might as well uninstall this pig shit.

Follow this guide to unlock rapports because you need them too advance…. LOL just kidding you don’t have a skin or 13 of them we have banked to resell later so your virtue points are gimped as fuck and you just locked yourself.. lol all that rapport wasted you shouldn’t have followed that guide if you weren’t a platinum pack day one player with knowledge about the game.. once again get fucked retard.

Oh you learned books instead of selling them the first day.. once again lol what a dumb faggot they were 10k two days ago but now they are 1 gold.. you should have known better enjoy your face fucking as we jackhammer your throat until it’s bruised. Shame you didn’t master the AH and engraving and shit for the last 2 years on Russia servers.

Oh well at least you can buy shit for 100x more than we paid last week while selling shit for 1/100th of the cost. This pretty much sums up my feelings on this game today. There are some pretty fun aspects of the game and I don’t mind grinding MMO’s I have done plenty of that in many games over the years but the gap in this game is insurmountable if you don’t want to swipe credit cards just to access the content. While there are a few who are actually getting to enjoy the end game right now they are only the people with prior knowledge of the game. Pretty much everyone else is stuck on their Everquest hell level that never ends, broke as fuck with a horse sized dildo jammed so far up their shit pipe they can’t even sit down, and if you are lucky enough to break through that wall enjoy the fact that the 100k items shit suckers are selling today net you about 3gold in dismantling mats next week because you didn’t make your 67th alts and 3 steam accounts and the founders fuck you pack.
Don't forget getting absolutely dumpstered by RNG. I'm pretty sure I have about as many failures (150) at ilvl 1357 as Voldeth did at 1370. With the added bonus that I still have the worst attempts left to go.

Oh, and even better is that I'm a moron like you so I have about 1/8th the gold he did and probably 1/10th the BC's.
 
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