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Tide27

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I'm having a great time but swarms of bots and no roadmap yet sound a lot like AGS didn't learn anything from New World.

The bots are out of fucking control. In many mmos, they might be noticeable here and there...but since this is on rails leveling and they are using speed hacks and going to ever quest mob you go to....its blatent, right in you face from the very first 5 mins you log in to the game.
 

Kirun

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The bots are out of fucking control. In many mmos, they might be noticeable here and there...but since this is on rails leveling and they are using speed hacks and going to ever quest mob you go to....its blatent, right in you face from the very first 5 mins you log in to the game.
Yeah, it was the first time I had been back to the Luterra area since the first week or two, finishing up some tome shit. The amount of warpers is insane and kind of comical. If I'm somebody who knows NOTHING about the game, sees it's F2P on Steam, and logged into that shit? I'm out and uninstalling 5 minutes after hitting Pridehome.
 
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Pyros

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Engravings confuse me. That's it for the most part so far though I think.

Thanks for letting me into the alt guild!
Engravings are a bit convoluted but once you get it it's pretty simple. You can check out videos for them, I think Saintone had a good one from prelaunch. Basically you're just trying to get increments of 5points in whatever engraving(which is a fancy word for talent/passive) you want, up to 15, by combining engraving levels on your accessories, ability stone and "book slots".

The book slots are the confusing part but it's easier to consider them as just stat less accessories that are shared between your chars. Getting 20 green books give 3points to that skill when slotted, then getting 20blue books upgrades to +6, 20purple to +9 and 20orange to +12. You have 2 book slots and you can slot the same engraving in both slot from books. So 2x green is 6points total, then you get 4points on your ability stone, now you have 10points aka level 2 of that engraving.

Goal is obviously to get stuff to 15 as the scaling is better usually by combining your 2 slots of books+accs+ability stone. Also ability stones can't roll class engravings, so usually at least one book slot will be class engraving since those tend to be very strong and build defining but it's harder to get high numbers without the 5-7 from ability stone. Often both slots to save money and max it.
 

BoozeCube

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If Amazon can't detect all of the Zerkers speed hacking and warping through the goddamn walls nonstop everyday then these worthless faggots need to hang up their coats. That shit ruins this game far more than any of the other retarded shit. All gold sellers and bot designers need to be shot in the fucking face.
 

Zindan

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If Amazon can't detect all of the Zerkers speed hacking and warping through the goddamn walls nonstop everyday then these worthless faggots need to hang up their coats. That shit ruins this game far more than any of the other retarded shit. All gold sellers and bot designers need to be shot in the fucking face.
Well, SG has to have tools to detect / delete such characters, and apparently whatever tools they do have are lacking. Not sure what AGS could other than scan some character data over and over and over to find them.
 

Pyros

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They have some tools since they falsely banned a bunch of laggy people, just it's likely not instantly banning them, or they need enough time to figure out if they're a bot or just some australian fucker. They do a reasonable job with it in terms of reducing spam(at least on EU I barely see spam anymore) but yeah the low lvl areas are infested. They're also farming gathering and shit, a lot of that stuff took nosedive in prices, which tbh I'm fine with, less reason to have to waste time gathering and cheaper shit. The only problem is I've been stuck with like 800 caldar mats that I'm now taking a loss on and they're still not selling, was doing them just to get stronghold xp but shit's been a waste of gold due to the prices falling every day and the huge amount of them on the market.
 

BoozeCube

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Well, SG has to have tools to detect / delete such characters, and apparently whatever tools they do have are lacking. Not sure what AGS could other than scan some character data over and over and over to find them.

Well that is kind of the point. They have said themselves that they can detect this stuff and have done a bot ban waves, problem is just like with Blizzard bot ban waves are fucking moronic. The only way banning bots is useful is if they happen often enough that they become unprofitable, or so little they aren't worth it. If they cleared out these warping shit suckers daily then they would never get past the first few areas and it wouldn't be worth the effort, but when they can run for weeks/months at a time they make enough to become viable.

Also they should ban the gold buyers as well, right now it sounds like they are letting them get away with it and that is a fucking travesty. It should be legal anyone running one of these gold selling sites could be blasted in the face with a shotgun and you win a prize of $1 million dollars. Think about how much better the world would be.
 

Bondurant

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Some gaming companies nowadays fail at fighting bots, goldselling and exploiting stuff because they don't have enough ressources alloted to it. Bots are like mosquitoes, you of course can't annihilate all of them but you can prevent a lot of them to annoy people. Besides the obvious and often circumvented automated measures, you hire people and run a bot task force to hunt bots and their methods, to watch ingame activity and ban them on the spot.

A three shift job position can easily remove bots by thousands by just monitoring starting zones, main teleports and places where bots go. Add more people to cover more servers. Bots will come back, they'll get banned again and at some point a balance will be created where you'll have some barely noticeable bots here and there, not swarms of bots running behind each others every second.

And they're being cheap regarding this problem because idiots are in charge of making decisions. I'm not "but they have unlimited money" them, it's a company they're here to make money and managing costs is good money. Letting a problem going rampant and resorting to automated software to solve it is bad money.
 
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Gravel

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They really need to fix the welcome reward to make it harder for the gold sellers. It won't fix it all since they're grinding literally everything now, but it'd be a start.
 

Cybsled

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Regarding bots, I went to do Blackfang quests and saw a lot of bots. I had to go to Atlas island (pvp) and there was a high level zerker standing at the quest handin and just murdering the nonstop stream of bots. I killed about 80 before I got bored and left lol
 

Daidraco

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Regarding bots, I went to do Blackfang quests and saw a lot of bots. I had to go to Atlas island (pvp) and there was a high level zerker standing at the quest handin and just murdering the nonstop stream of bots. I killed about 80 before I got bored and left lol
I killed tons on Atlas island for a while at a choke point too. While I was laying down nukes, I caught like 3 regular players and even though its a PVP island - I felt bad lol.

Anyone else getting booted from the game lately? Sometimes Ill load into a zone, wont be able to mount, and the game will eventually freeze for a moment, and say Ive been disconnected. I thought I must have been getting lag spikes, but I had 21ms latency this morning when it happened. It's only been happening since the patch Thursday.
 

Daidraco

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Also, is there a better way to get about 5 to 7 gifts a day other than farming Providence stone rewards from Una's? (Yes, I know the shop offers them. Strictly speaking free methods.)
 

Kythik

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Also, is there a better way to get about 5 to 7 gifts a day other than farming Providence stone rewards from Una's? (Yes, I know the shop offers them. Strictly speaking free methods.)
Wandering merchants and some adventure islands.
 

Tarrant

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I'm experiencing a bug with the Starlight Melody quest chain. I've completed it, but the dude I get the song from says I have to finish the quest chain before I can exchange anything with him. I've went to all other islands in the chain to see if Im missing anything, I'm not, and I don't even have the quest in my log.I can't get a dev response on it...its super annoying.
 

Pyros

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I'm experiencing a bug with the Starlight Melody quest chain. I've completed it, but the dude I get the song from says I have to finish the quest chain before I can exchange anything with him. I've went to all other islands in the chain to see if Im missing anything, I'm not, and I don't even have the quest in my log.I can't get a dev response on it...its super annoying.
You sure you don't have a step of the quest on an alt?
 

Asshat wormie

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I'm experiencing a bug with the Starlight Melody quest chain. I've completed it, but the dude I get the song from says I have to finish the quest chain before I can exchange anything with him. I've went to all other islands in the chain to see if Im missing anything, I'm not, and I don't even have the quest in my log.I can't get a dev response on it...its super annoying.
Yeah I have this shit too.
 
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Daidraco

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I'm experiencing a bug with the Starlight Melody quest chain. I've completed it, but the dude I get the song from says I have to finish the quest chain before I can exchange anything with him. I've went to all other islands in the chain to see if Im missing anything, I'm not, and I don't even have the quest in my log.I can't get a dev response on it...its super annoying.
Seems like a lot of people have had that issue after searching for it. But speaking of alts, they present a work around to the issue. Power pass an alt and take them through the quest chain for completion. I know this because I just ran into a similar bug with Sasha’s rapport quest. May not even have to do the entire mission, idk.

For example:
I did the revelry row rapport quest for Sasha on my main, and the quest said to go to arid path. When I got there it said to go to stern, I get there and find Sasha in the back of the town hall and I can’t interact with her. Even after dropping the quest and reloading, she’s just stuck in that same area. So I logged onto my alt, she’s in the correct spot and I was able to complete the quest with no issues.

People have said they’ve completed her with less than 310 virtues, but if I have to buy a skin for an alt just to finish her quests out - I’m going to be very annoyed. Charisma is my lowest stat at 318 with like 55 charisma coming from skins. Looking at the other quests that’s bugged in the forum and the responses, or lack thereof, pretty much tells me main is forever fucked from interacting with Sasha.