Malaysian Airlines 777 Shot Down (?)

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Cinge

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MH17 plane crash: Ukraine rebels hand over black boxes

Experts say the "black boxes" will reveal the exact time of the incident and the altitude and exact position of the aircraft.

They should also contain the cockpit voice recorder, which it is hoped will provide clues as to what the cause of the crash was.
Generally curious, can these things been tampered with? Or are they pretty much fool proof or if tampered with, easy to tell if that's the case?
 

Malakriss

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Generally curious, can these things been tampered with? Or are they pretty much fool proof or if tampered with, easy to tell if that's the case?
Why would they need to tamper with the black box? All the recorders are going to show is that the aircraft was blown out of the sky and everything cut off suddenly. Doesn't offer any proof on where exactly it was fired from, by whom, and where/who they got it from.
 

Cinge

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Why would they need to tamper with the black box? All the recorders are going to show is that the aircraft was blown out of the sky and everything cut off suddenly. Doesn't offer any proof on where exactly it was fired from, by whom, and where/who they got it from.
Thus the "generally curious" as in not specific to this incident.
 

Palum

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Thus the "generally curious" as in not specific to this incident.
No, it would basically be impossible to 'fake' events. You would immediately be able to tell if the inputs made sense with each other. To give you an idea, these things are recording flight surface inputs, instrument readings, engine status several times a second. The massive scale of rewriting complicated systems interactions for the entire 18-24 hours the device records in order to cover up falsification would be very difficult. Not to mention that you'd have the physical evidence there as well.

As far as the CVR, I'm not sure you could easily tamper with that either. They will be able to verify voice authenticity from independent recordings the same day from ATC.
 

Quineloe

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Guess which alternate route MA is now flying instead of over ukraine

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AladainAF

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I'd imagine the Ukraine is quite safe to fly over atm. I'm pretty sure, behind the curtains, Putin's made it quite clear for them to not shoot down any planes at all atm.
 

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Well I dont think the grails or SA7s ISIS/jihadis may have are capable of hitting a airliner at 30k feet.
 

Lambourne

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Maybe the dutch can open a war crimes investigation into that whole iraq war thing. Oh whats that? They participated in it?
Not to mention that the USA only recognizes the Court's jurisdiction on a case-by-case basis (after Nicaragua v USA didn't go the way Uncle Sam liked it), and the only means of enforcement is via the Security Council which the USA can veto at any time. It's American exceptionalism again, not that anyone with half a brain would expect otherwise.
 

Malakriss

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They should have went with MI6 and the NSA doing some James Bond movie shit to make the plane explode and have Snowden back it up.