Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Cad_sl said:
a_skeleton_03 you're reasoning from the stance that nobody would accept this, and if they do they're probably being dishonest.

Here's a tip: it's better to be honest and blow up the relationship than to be dishonest and stay in it. On both sides of that coin. If you're hiding your dark desire to do X Y or Z, what kind of marriage is it where you can't tell your wife? She should accept you and your flaws, or not. But it should be out there. By the same token, if you (or she) reveals something and you're totally not ok with it ever, honesty about that is good too.

Whats the theme here? honesty.

Not hiding X-boxes and vicodins to give to whores behind your wife's back or stealing pictures of your sister in law nude while claiming you know what marriage is.
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a_skeleton_03's god will forgive. Doesn't matter bro.
 
Khane

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Haha, some of the posters on this forum never fail to deliver. Calling honesty "emotional blackmail" and pretending lying about extramarital sex is OK because it's natural.
 
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Cad_sl said:
a_skeleton_03 you're reasoning from the stance that nobody would accept this, and if they do they're probably being dishonest.

Here's a tip: it's better to be honest and blow up the relationship than to be dishonest and stay in it. On both sides of that coin. If you're hiding your dark desire to do X Y or Z, what kind of marriage is it where you can't tell your wife? She should accept you and your flaws, or not. But it should be out there. By the same token, if you (or she) reveals something and you're totally not ok with it ever, honesty about that is good too.

Whats the theme here? honesty.
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The theme is personal honesty just as much as it is honesty with each other. Are you seriously arguing that not telling your wife you have a dark desire to see her sit on a chocolate cake and fart is tantamount to cheating? They are both "dishonest". Now that is ridiculous.

An open marriage established before you get married I am okay with by the way. There is a discussion before a step is taken that usually signals to each other and everyone else that you are supposed to be monogamous. Springing it several years later and spending years trying to convince your wife ... that isn't honesty, that isn't communication. That is strongarm tactics and emotional blackmail that end up with "yes I will do it" that isn't really honest.


Cad_sl said:
Not hiding X-boxes and vicodins to give to whores behind your wife's back or stealing pictures of your sister in law nude while claiming you know what marriage is.
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None of these things happened.
 
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Khane_sl said:
Haha, some of the posters on this forum never fail to deliver. Calling honesty "emotional blackmail" and pretending lying about extramarital sex is OK because it's natural.
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So years of breaking down a person you are cool with and they are "just being honest"?

Did he all of a sudden wake up one day and think to himself "OMG until this day I have never thought about an open marriage, today is the day I discuss it with my wife"? If not then he went into the marriage not communicating his needs and desires.
 
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We need the high sparrow up in here to make a_skeleton_03 confess to his crimes of lust after a skanky ho
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
The theme is personal honesty just as much as it is honesty with each other. Are you seriously arguing that not telling your wife you have a dark desire to see her sit on a chocolate cake and fart is tantamount to cheating? They are both "dishonest". Now that is ridiculous.
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Either way you're being dishonest about yourself and your desires. If you're actually cheating and lying about it, thats worse, but it's just a matter of degree.

a_skeleton_03_sl said:
An open marriage established before you get married I am okay with by the way.
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Good thing nobody gives a fuck what you're ok with!

a_skeleton_03_sl said:
There is a discussion before a step is taken that usually signals to each other and everyone else that you are supposed to be monogamous. Springing it several years later and spending years trying to convince your wife ... that isn't honesty, that isn't communication. That is strongarm tactics and emotional blackmail that end up with "yes I will do it" that isn't really honest.
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I guess you don't know what honesty and communication is then. What if I want to drive sports cars 5 years after marriage but I always drove the minivan? Is it strongarm tactics to talk my wife into it? You're fucking dumb bro. So prudish and hung up on sex.
 
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People never change Cad. Your opinions and desires at 18 will be your opinions and desires at 78.
 
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Hail, a_skeleton_03, full of grace.
The board is (not) with thee.
Blessed art though, amongst cuckolds.
And blessed is the fruit of thy fingers, shit posts.
 
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Cad_sl said:
I guess you don't know what honesty and communication is then. What if I want to drive sports cars 5 years after marriage but I always drove the minivan? Is it strongarm tactics to talk my wife into it? You're fucking dumb bro. So prudish and hung up on sex.
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If you agreed that this was going to be a relationship with only minivans and then 5 years later switched it would be. Good thing that isn't anywhere in what people see a marriage to be.

If you need to put a qualifier in front of it like "open marriage" then it's probably not how people define it normally. That is your first clue that something is not the same, you know it isn't though, and thus isn't going to automatically be accepted.
 
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The wrongness is due to it arising after the actual marriage ceremony now? That's great you found someone who won't change over their lifetime but it's tough to find that in people that aren't mentally retarded and some of us don't want to marry a retard
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
If you agreed that this was going to be a relationship with only minivans and then 5 years later switched it would be. Good thing that isn't anywhere in what people see a marriage to be.

If you need to put a qualifier in front of it like "open marriage" then it's probably not how people define it normally. That is your first clue that something is not the same, you know it isn't though, and thus isn't going to automatically be accepted.
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I don't think anybody cares what you call it. None of the people I know who have threesomes etc define it as an "open marriage". They're just kinky fuckers and have threesomes. They don't give a shit about your definitional nonsense.

And if you think the idea of what your marriage was going to be when you got married has to stay the same your whole marriage.... loool... this conversation is pointless you are even stupider than I thought.
 
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ZyyzYzzy_sl said:
a_skeleton_03, why are you unable to accept that some people are different from you?
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That is fine. Why can't you?

What is the percentage of open marriages compared to "normal" ones?

Every kind of advice is given in this thread and accepted as "well that's what they think because they lived through that issue" or whatever else. The only thing that isn't accepted in this thread is monogamy ....
 
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