Marriage and the Power of Divorce

Oblio

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Check work benefits too. All 3 of my jobs have provided financial assistance for adoption

Also I've heard you don't want to adopt foster children if you can, as shit as that sounds for me to type

Funny you mention that, the wife and I are starting the process this month. Our goal is to foster a little girl around the age of 5, late this spring or early summer, with the intent to adopt. All I know about the process at this point is that our hearts could get broken a few times as the biological parents can meet the minimum standards of getting their shit together just long enough to gain custody back of the child.
 

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Funny you mention that, the wife and I are starting the process this month. Our goal is to foster a little girl around the age of 5, late this spring or early summer, with the intent to adopt. All I know about the process at this point is that our hearts could get broken a few times as the biological parents can meet the minimum standards of getting their shit together just long enough to gain custody back of the child.
Yeah that's the problem with kids in the foster system.
 

iannis

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Nc won't even LET you adopt foster children.

Its not a try before you buy program.

Its a hard and complex issue all around. I don't think our way is the only or best way. All programs are going to have major problems. That's just going to happen anytime the state is forced to intercede in the family unit. And sometimes the state absolutely must.
 
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You ever know that one person in your family and friends circle that just no matter what they just keep falling on bad times? Every weird situation ever befalls them?

@Onoes is the full embodiment of that combined into one entity. I feel for you man, you just cannot catch a break.
 

Noodleface

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My wife has company tomorrow

So that means she wants me to spend all night cleaning. After I worked all day. And mowed the lawn. And ate dinner at 10pm. Fuck this
 
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Zaara

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Don't do it, then. Let her deal with the shame and embarrassment of not doing what she's supposed to do and having people judge her for it, maybe it'll be a nice wake-up call.
 
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@Onoes I thought you were in a position to live the narcissist dream, and be able to select your own fully vetted youngest cleanest meanest egg possible from the bank.

Then I realized that her eggs were not damaged, only her ability to carry-- and I got sad.
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Stack 35k-60k onto the above for surrogacy. Still comes out to less than 2 years at Harvard. Get yoself a Baby Prospect Loan?
 

Big Phoenix

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You ever know that one person in your family and friends circle that just no matter what they just keep falling on bad times? Every weird situation ever befalls them?

@Onoes is the full embodiment of that combined into one entity. I feel for you man, you just cannot catch a break.
Friend of mine is like that for things excluding relationships.

Flipped his car driving to or from Las Vegas resulting in a brain injury.

While in the hospital recovering he has an episode during which he walks outside the hospital only to be hit by a train.

After finishing up community college he goes on a trip up to Sedona with his mom, while walking on a trail he steps on a rattlesnake which promptly bites him, has to be air lifted to flagstaff.
 
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Soygen

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Don't do it, then. Let her deal with the shame and embarrassment of not doing what she's supposed to do and having people judge her for it, maybe it'll be a nice wake-up call.
Seriously, Noodleface Noodleface , this shouldn't even be up for debate.
 
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iannis

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It really shouldn't.

I'd be like "suck my dick right now and i'll give you two hours, otherwise i'm gonna go sit down".

Of course she'd probably suck your dick and then you're screwed.
 
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From the way he talks, noodle would definitely value a blowjob as equal to a few hours of cleaning.
 
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Yeah Noodleface Noodleface that is insane that she even said that to you. I'd have punched a wall if my wife did that to me.

@Onoes dude I'm sorry. It seems like you fall into a bucket of (sometimes crazy, yes) shit and as soon as you get out of that, you trip and fall into another. And we aren't talking just normal hard times... it's always got to be something way out of left field, a meteor fell out of the sky hit the ground in my back yard, causing a rock from the explosion to fly through the window and kill my cat dead on the spot kind of way out of left field.
 

Noodleface

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I'll tell you man I haven't been that mad in awhile. I cleaned my bathroom because honestly it was due and it takes 3 minutes. I did some laundry and I played wow. I avoided the actual cleaning because fuck that, she did the rest of the house. She commented on how mad I seemed and I couldn't even verbalize it to her
 

Oblio

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Yeah Noodleface Noodleface that is insane that she even said that to you. I'd have punched a wall if my wife did that to me.

@Onoes dude I'm sorry. It seems like you fall into a bucket of (sometimes crazy, yes) shit and as soon as you get out of that, you trip and fall into another. And we aren't talking just normal hard times... it's always got to be something way out of left field, a meteor fell out of the sky hit the ground in my back yard, causing a rock from the explosion to fly through the window and kill my cat dead on the spot kind of way out of left field.
 
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I'll tell you man I haven't been that mad in awhile. I cleaned my bathroom because honestly it was due and it takes 3 minutes. I did some laundry and I played wow. I avoided the actual cleaning because fuck that, she did the rest of the house. She commented on how mad I seemed and I couldn't even verbalize it to her

From the way you describe your wife interactions, it sounds like you are just getting super pissed off at her requests but going along with it anyway instead of talking to her about it. That's not going to improve your situation. Is there a reason you don't talk to her about it? Does she flip out if you have objections or something?
 

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You can only say you are visually and mentally disgusted with the table so many times before it isn't worth the breath
 
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I could only go so long until I found someone who would fuck me and clean the house...or at least let me fuck them at their clean house.
 
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Prodigal

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Nc won't even LET you adopt foster children.

Its not a try before you buy program.

Its a hard and complex issue all around. I don't think our way is the only or best way. All programs are going to have major problems. That's just going to happen anytime the state is forced to intercede in the family unit. And sometimes the state absolutely must.

My mother was a social worker in Child Protective Services here in NC and previously in another state - worked in both "removal" and placement - yeah, it's all kinds of fucked up.
 

Haast

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You can only say you are visually and mentally disgusted with the table so many times before it isn't worth the breath

The table, whatever. There's always going to be some minor things like that you have to learn to let go or just address yourself.

But when she's like, "It's after 10pm on a work night, time for you to do the cleaning I ignored all day!", that's a good time to let her know that after a full day of work, mowing the lawn and doing whatever else kept you from dinner until 10pm, that you are now done. If cleaning was that important, it would have been addressed already.