Khane
Got something right about marriage
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I did once. My first real relationship. I stayed way longer than I should have but in the end I still walked away from the situation and ultimatums weren't needed. Not only that but they wouldn't have changed anything.The reality is any relationship on a downward path where neither party wants to give it up for one reason or another is going to keep spiraling downward until someone says it's enough, things must/I] change.
First or second time? That's not rational. And sometimes you can have adult conversations with adults, but because of their situation or psychological conditions they simply don't get the point. I can't believe you've never had a relationship with family/friends/partners/whatever where you had to keep telling them the same things over and over and nothing changed?
There is a difference between asking someone to change their ways and knowing that if they don't you can't continue on with them. And using threats as a way to get what you want out of someone. If you have to threaten someone to have them see your side of the story there is a serious problem. And let's be honest. If you were gonna leave you'd just fucking leave. People use ultimatums to feel self-empowerment. Like they have a certain kind of control over the person they are threatening. They are useless as a true problem solving technique.