Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Cheating is a terrible idea in this case. There's the baggage of being around this person all the time(in school), and more importantly, wormie seems to be attracted to her in an intimate way. It's not just physical, from what he has described. That's all way too much baggage for the cheating option, should you go that route.
 

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Cheating is a terrible idea in this case. There's the baggage of being around this person all the time(in school), and more importantly, wormie seems to be attracted to her in an intimate way. It's not just physical, from what he has described. That's all way too much baggage for the cheating option, should you go that route.
This.

And to no ones surprise, I spent the entire night bullshitting with her. Did I mention my wife is at her parents house for 2 days due to jew holidays?
 

Phazael

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Thing is we actually have the informed swinging dick opinion, in a well though out and rational form, with Khaine. There are many other threads for people who want to go out and slay pussy and disregard anything resembling respect or loyalty to their partner.

Anyhow...

Wormie, you need to find out if you are just infatuated because granola girl is giving you attention you have not had in a while or if there is a more serious issue with your marriage. Personally, I would go away with the wife for a weekend and spend some real quality time (i.e. not sipping wine and watching TV) with her to get a feel for things. To me, it sounds like you just don't care for some reason. You want to bang this young nerd and are resisting every intelligent reason against it. If you are not in love with your wife anymore (and not spending family holidays with her family seems like a major red flag), you owe it to both her and yourself to sort that part out (possibly separate) before you even consider dipping your wick elsewhere. You might be able to poke this other girl and have your wife never be the wiser, but YOU would know and would have to live with yourself knowing you are not a trustworthy or honest person.

I personally could never do that, but there is a lot of room between super loyal people like me and walking talking testosterone fueled cocks like Keg. I think you are more on my end of the spectrum, but you also seem to not be able to resist temptation. If you can't ignore temptation, odds are you won't be able to ignore the guilt, either. At that point, as you said, the marriage is over whether the wife busts you or not. You need to work out (and work on) your existing marriage situation, first.

Side question: Does the college girl know you are married? In other words (assuming you are not reading things wrong here and she is actually throwing you signals), is she willing to be a home wrecker?
 

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However to put kegkilla's post in context with his previous posts, his attitude is and always has been "fuck who you want, who cares about marriage?" which ... this being the marriage thread, probably isn't appropriate. If you guys wouldn't engage his trolling though, it probably wouldn't get turned up to 11.
please reference one occasion where my attitude was "fuck who you want, who cares about marriage?"

i'm not doing any "trolling" in this thread, i'm providing insight from my point of view which contains a lot of perspective that i'd wager the vast majority of people in this thread don't have.

furthermore, you were one of the first in this thread to take a shot at me

But it's kegkilla asking so if he doesn't reproduce thats probably ok.
so you can shove the holier than thou shtick up your ass. thanks in advance.
 

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Thing is we actually have the informed swinging dick opinion, in a well though out and rational form, with Khaine. There are many other threads for people who want to go out and slay pussy and disregard anything resembling respect or loyalty to their partner.

Anyhow...

Wormie, you need to find out if you are just infatuated because granola girl is giving you attention you have not had in a while or if there is a more serious issue with your marriage. Personally, I would go away with the wife for a weekend and spend some real quality time (i.e. not sipping wine and watching TV) with her to get a feel for things. To me, it sounds like you just don't care for some reason. You want to bang this young nerd and are resisting every intelligent reason against it. If you are not in love with your wife anymore (and not spending family holidays with her family seems like a major red flag), you owe it to both her and yourself to sort that part out (possibly separate) before you even consider dipping your wick elsewhere. You might be able to poke this other girl and have your wife never be the wiser, but YOU would know and would have to live with yourself knowing you are not a trustworthy or honest person.

I personally could never do that, but there is a lot of room between super loyal people like me and walking talking testosterone fueled cocks like Keg. I think you are more on my end of the spectrum, but you also seem to not be able to resist temptation. If you can't ignore temptation, odds are you won't be able to ignore the guilt, either. At that point, as you said, the marriage is over whether the wife busts you or not. You need to work out (and work on) your existing marriage situation, first.

Side question: Does the college girl know you are married? In other words (assuming you are not reading things wrong here and she is actually throwing you signals), is she willing to be a home wrecker?
The holiday thing is not what it sounds like. She is 20 minutes away from me. She just cant drive or be driven by a jew and I dont want to sleep there. So I slept at home. We still had a nice family dinner together and all that shit.

As to cheating on the wife and not telling her, thats not an option. There is no way I could lie to her. If the cheating happens, its over.

As to the college girl, we havent talked about it. She absolutely knows I am involved with someone (and I know she is involved as well) but we just dont touch that topic. No idea if she is willing to be a home wrecker or not but whats the difference? If my marriage is so easily destroyed by a random girl, what is wrong with it? Did I settle? Did the "magic" or whatever the fuck disappear? And why am I feeling like this when I was certain my relationship with my wife was ironclad.
 

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This.

And to no ones surprise, I spent the entire night bullshitting with her. Did I mention my wife is at her parents house for 2 days due to jew holidays?
Knock that shit off already. Cut contact until you have made your decision.
 

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As to the college girl, we havent talked about it. She absolutely knows I am involved with someone (and I know she is involved as well) but we just dont touch that topic. No idea if she is willing to be a home wrecker or not but whats the difference? If my marriage is so easily destroyed by a random girl, what is wrong with it? Did I settle? Did the "magic" or whatever the fuck disappear? And why am I feeling like this when I was certain my relationship with my wife was ironclad.
Because life isn't black and white. Having feelings for someone else isn't a sign of a frail marriage or bad things to come, it's human nature. You're going to meet women you connect with other than your wife, it happens.

You made a commitment and you should take that commitment seriously but I think you're overreacting to these feelings you're having. You're letting the romanticized version of love that gets shoved down our throats our entire lives make you believe you're a bad person just for feeling a connection with another human being.

Anyone who tells you they've never felt anything for someone outside of their marriage that made them have doubts at one time or another is either full of shit or lives in a cave. Those feelings don't mean your marriage is inevitably doomed, it just means life and love aren't as simple as you thought they were.

If you take emotion out of the equation and look at things objectively, based on what you've told us the smart thing to do is stay with your wife. She's got a great career, has ambition, loves you, lets you remain independent and you enjoy spending time together. The 26 year old has a connection in one area of your life you don't have with your wife (at least that's how it sounds to me) and you're romanticizing that into "she seems perfect for me". You have no idea if she'll finish school and go out and get a job or be like the vast majority of women I date who go to school, get a degree, and then act like a job should be your passion and never fucking use it. I know a lot of secretaries and bartenders with degrees they'll never use. Those women are little girls waiting for a man to come sweep them off their feet. Your wife is a real woman.
 

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wormie have you considered the opposite situation? One where your wife is talking to a man and considering cheating. What would you want her to do in said situation?
 

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I pretty much emphatically agree with everything Khaine just posted. This other girl is stimulating your interests in areas your wife does not and your dick is filling in the blanks making it seem like something more. People are not perfect and there is no reason to expect your wife to be different, in that respect. You know the right path. Find the discipline to walk it.
 

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Grass is always greener...yadda yadda yadda.


You made a vow in front of friends and family. You should honor it.
 

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Because life isn't black and white. Having feelings for someone else isn't a sign of a frail marriage or bad things to come, it's human nature. You're going to meet women you connect with other than your wife, it happens.

You made a commitment and you should take that commitment seriously but I think you're overreacting to these feelings you're having. You're letting the romanticized version of love that gets shoved down our throats our entire lives make you believe you're a bad person just for feeling a connection with another human being.

Anyone who tells you they've never felt anything for someone outside of their marriage that made them have doubts at one time or another is either full of shit or lives in a cave. Those feelings don't mean your marriage is inevitably doomed, it just means life and love aren't as simple as you thought they were.

If you take emotion out of the equation and look at things objectively, based on what you've told us the smart thing to do is stay with your wife. She's got a great career, has ambition, loves you, lets you remain independent and you enjoy spending time together. The 26 year old has a connection in one area of your life you don't have with your wife (at least that's how it sounds to me) and you're romanticizing that into "she seems perfect for me". You have no idea if she'll finish school and go out and get a job or be like the vast majority of women I date who go to school, get a degree, and then act like a job should be your passion and never fucking use it. I know a lot of secretaries and bartenders with degrees they'll never use. Those women are little girls waiting for a man to come sweep them off their feet. Your wife is a real woman.
Its not just that I am attracted to the another girl, its that I feel something that I have not felt for/with my wife. Thats whats freaking me out.

wormie have you considered the opposite situation? One where your wife is talking to a man and considering cheating. What would you want her to do in said situation?
If the situations were identical but reversed? I would want to know about it.
 

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If the situations were identical but reversed? I would want to know about it.
Cad convinced me that this would be a terrible idea. Maybe a dude would be logical enough to work things out if his wife told him she had an infatuation, but I don't think your wife would handle this well at all.

To be honest, you're being incredibly naive here.All marriages are easily destroyed by some random girl.The fact that this whole thing is really bothering you so much suggests to me that you actually have a pretty strong marriage that you don't want to ruin. Your feelings for this chick are literally nothing more than new girlfriend excitement. It sounds like you have more in common with this chick than you do with your wife, but that's not enough to base a relationship on, much less end a marriage.
 

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This.

And to no ones surprise, I spent the entire night bullshitting with her. Did I mention my wife is at her parents house for 2 days due to jew holidays?
Dude, you scored the stable, sane, hard working doctor Jew wife rather than the crazy daddy's girl Jew wife-- don't fuck this up over a spicy shiksa.
 

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this being the marriage thread, probably isn't appropriate.
Ahh. I didn't realize that this thread was titled, "Only people who have happy marriages and never contemplate leaving them" thread. Tarrant, Wormie, Chaos? GTFO! It isn't "appropriate" to have a different opinion/moral stance in this thread, aside from "never cheat, never leave your wife".

Wormie, you have almost the perfect marriage. A woman who is an earner and a relationship that is essentially roommates, but with occasional fucking involved? Sounds fucking heavenly.

I'll never understand men who want to spend every waking moment with their significant other. Gain some independence - your wife isn't your fucking mom, Jesus Christ. That was the #1 reason why I married my wife, honestly. Sure, we spend some time together after work, during the weekends, etc., but for the most part? We leave each other the fuck alone. I really could give a fuck less about what happens on Facebook, work drama, who's a slutty bitch, etc. Conversely, my wife could really care less who just intercepted Tony Romo, the fastest way to powerlevel in EQ, and the armor class of a level 20 monk. We both know this, we had our own "things" we did before we got together, and there is no reason why you should have to forgo them after you do get together. Forcing the person you love most to deal with your shitty ass, boring hobbies/activities is something that will never make sense to me, and just shows how fucking co-dependent some people are.
 

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This.

And to no ones surprise, I spent the entire night bullshitting with her. Did I mention my wife is at her parents house for 2 days due to jew holidays?
Starting an affair while your wife is observing Rosh Hashanah would be peak irony.
 

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Ahh. I didn't realize that this thread was titled, "Only people who have happy marriages and never contemplate leaving them" thread. Tarrant, Wormie, Chaos? GTFO! It isn't "appropriate" to have a different opinion/moral stance in this thread, aside from "never cheat, never leave your wife".

Wormie, you have almost the perfect marriage. A woman who is an earner and a relationship that is essentially roommates, but with occasional fucking involved? Sounds fucking heavenly.

I'll never understand men who want to spend every waking moment with their significant other. Gain some independence - your wife isn't your fucking mom, Jesus Christ. That was the #1 reason why I married my wife, honestly. Sure, we spend some time together after work, during the weekends, etc., but for the most part? We leave each other the fuck alone. I really could give a fuck less about what happens on Facebook, work drama, who's a slutty bitch, etc. Conversely, my wife could really care less who just intercepted Tony Romo, the fastest way to powerlevel in EQ, and the armor class of a level 20 monk. We both know this, we had our own "things" we did before we got together, and there is no reason why you should have to forgo them after you do get together. Forcing the person you love most to deal with your shitty ass, boring hobbies/activities is something that will never make sense to me, and just shows how fucking co-dependent some people are.
I never said I wanted to spend any more time with my wife than I already do. That shit sounds horrible. The amount of time I spend with her is the exact amount of time I want to spend with her and vise versa.

Starting an affair while your wife is observing Rosh Hashanah would be peak irony.
You think I wont be added to the book of life if I do that? Sad times.