Shonuff
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Marvel Netflix: Defenders
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Shonuff
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How did they go from a super powered team that deals with cosmic threats like this:
To a street level team like this:
I'd much rather have seen a Heroes For Hire show, as everyone but Daredevil is related to that group. I won't question Marvel, as they are not making many mistakes, but it's a bit of stretch to see the Netflix version of the team as Avengers level.
To a street level team like this:
I'd much rather have seen a Heroes For Hire show, as everyone but Daredevil is related to that group. I won't question Marvel, as they are not making many mistakes, but it's a bit of stretch to see the Netflix version of the team as Avengers level.
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I think your expectation of what the Defenders dealt with is off. As long as I could recall most of what they dealt with was stuff the Avengers couldn't ie the non-cosmic stuff. I could be wrong, I would have preferred a Heroes for Hire vs a show for Luke and Iron Fist.
dechire
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenders_(comics) So looking over this it looks like I'm off a bit. In my defense it wasnt a book I purchased very often.
Shonuff
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With Hulk, Dr Strange and Silver Surfer on the same team, you can bet they are dealing with cosmic/alien/interdimensional threats like Mephisto or Dormammu. And yeah, Heroes for Hire would have been interesting, but they've shot themselves in the foot now.
Shonuff
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Except they've been nerfed to street level, and are going to have a hard time fighting villains like Thanos.
Drakain
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I don't want to get into a power level debate because I have about zero comic knowledge outside the MCU and Wikipedia, but Cap got shot in Winter Soldier(or was it stabbed?). He's no more tough skinned than anyone else. If Jessica Jones stayed at the Avengers facility for 6 month for training and stayed away from all alcohol, I bet she would be a lot tougher. Daredevil has amazing senses, but if Joe Thug gets a lucky shot on him with a cinder block he's going to go down like anyone. Maybe I just misunderstood what you mean by street level, but personally think the powers line up nicely. It's more about their individual situation that determine how they use their gifts.
Shonuff
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You say you don't want to start an argument about power levels, and then start one. Captain America has a shield that is unbreakable. It takes skill to get past it. Winter Soldier is skilled enough to beat a lot of metahumans.
I don't see anyone in the Defenders right now that would be able to do the below. But their comic book versions could. Starting with Daredevil, the showrunner made the choice to make it so that the Defenders are barely superhuman. Daredevil barely wins almost every fight, and you wonder how he did. Jessica Jones is not bulletproof, but superstrong. In the comics, she can go toe to toe with guys in the 100 ton category. Luke Cage is bulletproof, but not even as strong as a weakened JJ. In the comics, he's gone toe to toe with the Hulk.
Drakain
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I agree that the comic versions are different, I guess that's what I mean about an argument. I don't know enough about the comic versions to even debate. We are not getting book Luke and JJ. To me they seem fine because I don't know any better. Doesn't Black Widow in the comics have a similar Super Soldier serum like Cap's? In the MCU she is just a badass. To me, a filthy casual, these heroes and their powers seem grounded in reality, as goofy as that sounds.
Shonuff
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And groups like the Avengers and Defenders in the comics fight cosmic villains like Thanos. Don't forget, Thanos once blew up a planet in one shot, without any infinity gems.
Siddar
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Seems like a high risk production for netflix.
This is going to have a game of thrones cost per episode price tag to portray four superheroes in action at the same time. Will they actually do that is the question or will it be basically solo stories that connect at the end.
Defenders is simply not correct name for the team they are using. This a clear break from marvel doing it right in regards to respecting the history of the characters they have used so far.
Wouldn't be surprise if there is a bit of PR hype going on here and the show gets pushed back a year very soon.
They likely have multiple choices on the table in regards to what shows they will make and can't afford them all. So a defenders start in 2016 may mean no daredevil season three. That would be my guess, that if we get a season three of daredevil then no defenders start this year if we get defenders then no season three for daredevil.
This is going to have a game of thrones cost per episode price tag to portray four superheroes in action at the same time. Will they actually do that is the question or will it be basically solo stories that connect at the end.
Defenders is simply not correct name for the team they are using. This a clear break from marvel doing it right in regards to respecting the history of the characters they have used so far.
Wouldn't be surprise if there is a bit of PR hype going on here and the show gets pushed back a year very soon.
They likely have multiple choices on the table in regards to what shows they will make and can't afford them all. So a defenders start in 2016 may mean no daredevil season three. That would be my guess, that if we get a season three of daredevil then no defenders start this year if we get defenders then no season three for daredevil.
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Think I would have preferred the running fan theory of the Defenders being a story from the Villain side of things. Groups of Criminals siding together after discovering each has their own thorn in the side and taking steps to rid the streets of these Heroes, thus resulting in the Heroes ending up doing the same thing later.
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[SERIES][TVPOSTER]
[/TVPOSTER][SERIESWRAP][EPISODENAME]Marvel's The Defenders[/EPISODENAME]
Genre: [GENRE]Action & Adventure[/GENRE], [GENRE]Sci-Fi & Fantasy[/GENRE]
First Aired: [RELEASE]2018-12-31[/RELEASE]
Overview: [PLOT]The superheroes Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage team-up in New York City.[/PLOT][/SERIESWRAP][/SERIES]
Genre: [GENRE]Action & Adventure[/GENRE], [GENRE]Sci-Fi & Fantasy[/GENRE]
First Aired: [RELEASE]2018-12-31[/RELEASE]
Overview: [PLOT]The superheroes Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage team-up in New York City.[/PLOT][/SERIESWRAP][/SERIES]
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