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How many nuts went a'bust during Man of Steel?
Also, I hate to ask, butclean nut? Wakandan, all my nuts is kleen.
A clean nut is where you clear the pipes 100%. It is a rare thing to present such a forceful release as to accomplish the feat and thus is used only for the most choice ejactulate.
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The Ancient knows what I'm talking about, but if you need further clarification, PM Lyrical.
Scleris' concept post was awesome, and I'd fucking love to watch that. However, I really need to see Adam Warlock one of these days, he was pretty much the first "cosmic" hero that I read about (I honestly never considered people like Silver Surfer or Galactus as part of the "cosmic" storyline, even though technically they are, because they were far more involved with groups like The Fantastic Four), which of course got me familiar with Thanos and everyone else. I have no idea who I would want to play him, but Faramir doesn't really fit my idea of him at all.
Also, while I will continue to say your idea was awesome, I have to express my disappointment over singling out Beta Ray Bill as someone not to include
Because you already have a thor. Adding an alien in asgardian attire with a hammer and have at thee speak, will confuse the everliving crap out of people, next to that, look at beta and the cheatauri from the avengers movie. I don't hate beta ray bill, but i tried to condense the addition of superheroes to make it remotely understandable to non comic readers. Hence why i put loki in the role mephisto has in the comics, i left out the xmen, spiderman, thanos' half brother who's name i forgot, the entire infinity watch except drax and gamora who are in the guardians and the cosmic entities. I added a few names of characters who are getting introduced in guardians of the galaxy to give the avengers army some volume. And instead of the cosmic entities i added the asgardians, because i don't believe they would be sitting on their hands with a war of cosmic magnitude around the corner....with loki involved.
Trust me i would love a page by page rendition of the infinity gauntlet, i really do, but to do that, phase 3 would require 17 origin movies at least
. adam warlock would need a trilogy on his own. About who gets to play him, you need an actor with a presence that works even standing still...because that is what warlock does 90% of the infinity gauntlet. And with a perfctly neutral face and voice. With all that he still needs to come off believable, and demand authority. Are we terribly attached to his beach blonde 80's george michael hairdo?
Trust me i would love a page by page rendition of the infinity gauntlet, i really do, but to do that, phase 3 would require 17 origin movies at least
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I know, I was more or less just bemoaning the fate of my beloved Bill. I understand why Bill isn't likely to be in any live-action Marvel movie ever, and somewhere around here (might be in a different thread) I even explained a few reasons why. I was just screwing with you, for the most part. My post earlier about cutting corners puts me squarely in your corner on almost all of the things you just said, because I agree too much complication and new characters would dilute the whole thing and potentially ruin it.Because you already have a thor. Adding an alien in asgardian attire with a hammer and have at thee speak, will confuse the everliving crap out of people, next to that, look at beta and the cheatauri from the avengers movie. I don't hate beta ray bill, but i tried to condense the addition of superheroes to make it remotely understandable to non comic readers. Hence why i put loki in the role mephisto has in the comics, i left out the xmen, spiderman, thanos' half brother who's name i forgot, the entire infinity watch except drax and gamora who are in the guardians and the cosmic entities. I added a few names of characters who are getting introduced in guardians of the galaxy to give the avengers army some volume. And instead of the cosmic entities i added the asgardians, because i don't believe they would be sitting on their hands with a war of cosmic magnitude around the corner....with loki involved.
Trust me i would love a page by page rendition of the infinity gauntlet, i really do, but to do that, phase 3 would require 17 origin movies at least. adam warlock would need a trilogy on his own. About who gets to play him, you need an actor with a presence that works even standing still...because that is what warlock does 90% of the infinity gauntlet. And with a perfctly neutral face and voice. With all that he still needs to come off believable, and demand authority. Are we terribly attached to his beach blonde 80's george michael hairdo?
I just miss Bill
EDIT: Oh, but I really would love at least a cameo from an Adam Warlock though, even if he wasn't the pivotal character he should be. As far as his hair, I'd be fine with an actual gold, not surfer blonde.
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Nope. They changed the name!
Still a chance they do more with it. Say the "tessaract" was only a fraction of a cosmic cube, or it's true powers were barely tapped.
But really, I'm fine with them not having an item that is basically a magic lamp. My brain doesn't demand they stick to the comic canon if I can see how the change might work better in the movie universe they've made.
Big caveat on all this is I've never delved real far in to the cosmic Marvel stuff. So bigger fans of that realm(like all you Adam Warlock superfans) will feel differently.
Now, turning Spider-Man in to an unrepentant and unfunny sk8terboy douchebag, THAT was going too far.
I agree Vvoid, beta gets no love at all. They could of course put thor up against beta who gets mjolnir in the third thor movie. Use the entire storyline of how beta ray bill gets his own hammer after defeating thor in a duel. And together they battle an enemy i can't come up with right away. That way he is all ready to go in avengers 3. All you need to do is give him less thor ish armor. Those comics with beta vs. thor but both fight the good fight was a big gamechanger for the thor comics.
Ok here is a wild suggestion ....benedict cumberbatch as adam warlock? He has a good voice, a stoic face and a good screen presence.
Ok here is a wild suggestion ....benedict cumberbatch as adam warlock? He has a good voice, a stoic face and a good screen presence.
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All this talk about not being able to do certain characters or storylines due to over complexity.... I don't know... I don't think I buy it. Granted, it was technically a teaser... Buy they didn't explain anything when thanks showed up. Certain characters really need an origin story. Others don't as long as it's organic to the overall story. The warriors three didn't need one. Hogun is fricken Mongolian. What's he doing in Asgard? Doesn't matter, he's Thors friend. No reason you can't have beta ray bill in the same capacity. Have him introduced to Jane and take 5 minutes to show a montage of picking up mjolnir and being given stormbreaker and call it a day.
Don't remember where I saw it but the other day there was a post about how DC won't introduce wonder woman because she's too complicated and over here we have a British raccoon with a machine gun.
The audience isn't as stupid as people think.
Don't remember where I saw it but the other day there was a post about how DC won't introduce wonder woman because she's too complicated and over here we have a British raccoon with a machine gun.
The audience isn't as stupid as people think.
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nah. complexity is a problem. time compression. LotR is one of the few that does a good job with it. on the other hand, go watch the All-Star superman animated movie, and then go read the comic. The movie completely and utterly failed. it cut out too much, and too many key moments and plot points.
WW too complex? no. thats silly.
WW too complex? no. thats silly.
Part of my concern is... scenes like that comic cover posted, Thanos standing up (and beating) that assembled group of badass cosmic entities loses a lot of meaning if you don't grasp who those badass cosmic entities are. Combine with a smaller marvel universe, Thanos whupping on Galactus, maybe a dozen Avengers and the Guardians just doesn't seem as awesome and reality shaking to me as the real Infinity Gauntlet.
It just seems like a tough road to cut between letting down comic fans and confusing and upsetting the movie audience.
I will say though, I thought all these Marvel movies would suck until I watched them and they were awesome. So I'm just horribly negative perhaps
It just seems like a tough road to cut between letting down comic fans and confusing and upsetting the movie audience.
I will say though, I thought all these Marvel movies would suck until I watched them and they were awesome. So I'm just horribly negative perhaps
Fuck that shit, I loved them all till Iron Man/Lethal Weapon 5.
That movie needs to burn in the pits of hell with Robert and Shane Black.
That movie needs to burn in the pits of hell with Robert and Shane Black.
sorry guys but you need to take a step back and stop work your imagination so much
how can you even take in consideration the possibility to see a full-powerful, comic-like infinity gauntlet on the movie ? seriously ? It's simply beyond stupid to even think about it
if you have to speculate, do it about HOW they are going to adjust it for the movie....not wonder if Thanos will snap his fingers or just say a word to wipeout half life in the universe
so far they have done a good work to translate the wierdiest stuff from comic to movie:
Norse gods ? we go full "Stargate"
Cosmic Cube being an universal Genie ? make it an infinite powersource AND hints that it is much more but we dont know how to use it
but the Infinity War simply goes too far out in the cosmic prospective. They only element that i consider possible to rapresent on the movie is Death as a real being. But only because it's something we have already seen in other movies and it's present in general fantasy culture
unfortunatelly, after reading Thanos Rising i fear for the worse on that front
how can you even take in consideration the possibility to see a full-powerful, comic-like infinity gauntlet on the movie ? seriously ? It's simply beyond stupid to even think about it
if you have to speculate, do it about HOW they are going to adjust it for the movie....not wonder if Thanos will snap his fingers or just say a word to wipeout half life in the universe
so far they have done a good work to translate the wierdiest stuff from comic to movie:
Norse gods ? we go full "Stargate"
Cosmic Cube being an universal Genie ? make it an infinite powersource AND hints that it is much more but we dont know how to use it
but the Infinity War simply goes too far out in the cosmic prospective. They only element that i consider possible to rapresent on the movie is Death as a real being. But only because it's something we have already seen in other movies and it's present in general fantasy culture
unfortunatelly, after reading Thanos Rising i fear for the worse on that front
Yeah, Fucker is right, i mean why even bother. You need to follow the naysayers and just leave it behind. I mean, 10 years ago we all yelled it was impossible to properly translate lord of the rings into a movie. It was rediculous to even imagine a song of ice and fire being a tv series. I mean, come on! Rediculous!
Marvel should have quit after iron man 1, because it's impossible to explain norse gods and a 1940's supersoldier, and then letting them team up in a movie.
Times have changed...'can't do' turned to, "let's see if we can pull it off!" And ultimately most of the times results into "see? Told you we could do it!"
You forget a couple of things, you will never get a carbon copy of infinity gauntlet, but does that mean they cannot possibly do it right? There is absolutely no leeway on altering a few things, cutting away some exuess fat, and shaping it up to fit the universe they built, while still maintaining the essentials? They can, and marvel built enough credit in my book to actually be able to pull it off. And they built up enough credit that disney will cut them a blank check and say, "go make us 2 billion dollars!"
Understand, that next up we have thor 2 wich will expand the 9 realms, after that we have a team with a talkng tree and raccoon in space meeting up with the collector, ronan the accuser(Kree bigwig) Korath the pursuer and members of the nova corps. We already had aliens invade earth with giant whale ships coming through a cosmic portal opened by a norse god a few movies ago....we passed the line of "people won't buy it" a long time ago.
Marvel should have quit after iron man 1, because it's impossible to explain norse gods and a 1940's supersoldier, and then letting them team up in a movie.
Times have changed...'can't do' turned to, "let's see if we can pull it off!" And ultimately most of the times results into "see? Told you we could do it!"
You forget a couple of things, you will never get a carbon copy of infinity gauntlet, but does that mean they cannot possibly do it right? There is absolutely no leeway on altering a few things, cutting away some exuess fat, and shaping it up to fit the universe they built, while still maintaining the essentials? They can, and marvel built enough credit in my book to actually be able to pull it off. And they built up enough credit that disney will cut them a blank check and say, "go make us 2 billion dollars!"
Understand, that next up we have thor 2 wich will expand the 9 realms, after that we have a team with a talkng tree and raccoon in space meeting up with the collector, ronan the accuser(Kree bigwig) Korath the pursuer and members of the nova corps. We already had aliens invade earth with giant whale ships coming through a cosmic portal opened by a norse god a few movies ago....we passed the line of "people won't buy it" a long time ago.