They put in lots of cool easter eggs in every movie, doesn't mean they're going to make a movie of them all.
I doubt we'll be seeing an Invaders movie.
I doubt we'll be seeing an Invaders movie.
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Thanos wasn't an Easter Egg. Thanos's inclusion as the ultimate villain behind The Avengers movie all but insures an Infinity Gauntlet storyline.
as Ancient said, Thanos was not an easter egg. He's simply THE greatest villain in the Marvel universe. You dont "easter egg" a character like him. That was a public announchment for their future plants
Thanos will be the villain for Avengers 3. Everyone thought they were going to use him in Avengers 2, but looks like their plans were more ambitious. Ultron being the villain for Av2 was a surprise infact. No one had predicted it
Now, if you know something about Thanos, the Infinity Gauntlet was THE storyline that define him. Use Thanos and dont make him wield the Gauntlet it's like making superman without Krypton destruction, or spiderman without uncle ben dieng. There will be a comic nerd insurrection if they bring out Thanos and won't include the Infinite Gauntlet after they showed it
also, consider that the Infinity Gauntlet was THE most shown and avertised "artifact" at all comic book conventions before Thor movie. Now they are making the Guardian of the Galaxy.Two of its members are 2 of the 3 ppl most directly connected to Thanos in the entire Marvel universe (Drax and Gamora, the 3rd is Adam Warlock who for some strange reason was not included)
everything so far is pointing in that direction. I'm very curious to know if Thor2 will confirm it, or leave us in the dark and start the Ultron storyline (Ironman3 had not hint to it)
Now, that said....yes, it will be extremely hard to propely show the Gauntlet on screen. They'll have to be really creative with it to dont turn everything into a cheesy trainwreck
The thing is though, will you be happy with "a story with Thanos and a really uber powerful gauntlet thing" if it isn't the actual Infinity Gauntlet story?
It just seems like Infinity Gauntlet wouldn't be quite right if you took stuff out that showed how powerful he was. While having Death and Eternity and the Living Tribunal and all in the comic is fine, sticking it into a movie without some exposition, well, half the movie will be explaining who the people are that Thanos just blows up 30 seconds later.
I think the weirder and more "cosmic craziness" you get, the harder it will be for a movie audience to swallow. We'll see how Guardians of the Galaxy does I think, if people enjoy that or pass it by before I'd be getting hopes for Infinity Gauntlet.
It just seems like Infinity Gauntlet wouldn't be quite right if you took stuff out that showed how powerful he was. While having Death and Eternity and the Living Tribunal and all in the comic is fine, sticking it into a movie without some exposition, well, half the movie will be explaining who the people are that Thanos just blows up 30 seconds later.
I think the weirder and more "cosmic craziness" you get, the harder it will be for a movie audience to swallow. We'll see how Guardians of the Galaxy does I think, if people enjoy that or pass it by before I'd be getting hopes for Infinity Gauntlet.
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I would be OK as long as they gave some play to just how ridiculously powerful it really is. Don't need it fully warping reality and all, but if it's just like him punching superhard and shooting laser beams with it that will be shit.
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My guess is that Guardians of the Galaxy defeat a non-gauntleted Thanos for this movie. Then, in the after-credit scene, Thanos, beaten to the ground and left for dead, sees a glowing crystal in the dirt that he picks up. Zoom in on his face giving a big powerful smile or whatever. The end.
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Not much. I don't go too crazy about sticking super tight to the comic canon when it comes to movies. Especially when it comes to the ridiculous universe altering level stuff. I'd rather they change it enough to fit in the Marvel U they've created than just shit all over everything Crystal Skull style.
They've set the groundwork for some pretty serious suspension of disbelief though. Between Norse gods and aliens from dimensional portals they should not have to really gimp these cosmic level items as much as some folks are scared they will.
The Infinity Gauntlet's time control can be scaled down, if Thanos can control the speed of time on a global scale that will be scary enough, he doesn't have to control it for the entire galaxy at will. The space gem and it's teleportation stuff won't need changed. Power gem covers the punching and laser blasts, one bitchslap of Hulk should get that idea across. Mind gem also no problem, force push some armies etc. Only ones that I think will be hard to translate are Reality/Soul gems. Just the scale of how those can work.
I'm sure I'm in the nerd minority here, where as much as I love the source material I'm OK with it changing to suit the movie world as long as it's done well. Cosmic Cube falls right in with the Gauntlet, as far as how much I care about power levels go.
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first off... mark wahlberg can go screw himself. he's that kid down the street that everyone grew up with that talked crap all day long but anytime he had to put up or shut up his mom called him home for dinner. the 2 best parts of that article are where he thinks that not only is he comparable to robert downey jr, but that he would deserve to take over the role of ironman. wat. secondly, where he talks about him "dodging a bullet" with robin. he's basically saying "yeah, i could be ironman... but honestly... do i WANT to be? i mean, come on... it's silly comic books."
anyways... as far as the soul gem goes... don't forget that scarlet witch will be in avengers 2. they'll have already tackled reality warping before thanos comes around.
anyways... as far as the soul gem goes... don't forget that scarlet witch will be in avengers 2. they'll have already tackled reality warping before thanos comes around.
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Nah, I'm with you on that. There is pretty much no way that they can fully convey all the things in the Marvel Universe, so as long as it is "close enough" without wasting too much time and effort to explain their way through it, I'll be ok with it.
That being said, if it isn't something too complicated, I want them to try their best to blow my fucking mind with it. Galactus and/or beings like the Celestials would be a perfect example. I don't want a fucking cloud, or even just a 20-foot fucking dude, I want something that fills the sky and towers over everything. That's all just special effects, so go all out on that shit, make me feel insignificant. But if you're going to show Galactus eating a world, I'd be fine with them dumbing it down a little so everyone gets the point of what is going on. Same with the Infinity Gauntlet. Make it look completely awesome and all-powerful when he uses it, and how he uses it, but if you have to dumb it down some and leave out stuff like The Living Tribunal, I can live with that. Have him punk Odin perhaps, who is probably the most powerful character anyone would recognize from the movies, but don't start bringing in random ultra-beings that someone that has only watched the movies would never have heard of. Hell, punk ALL of Asgard at once, with the ice and fire giants together. Whatever, just use mostly stuff that people recognize. Maybe one new Eternity-level character, but I don't even really think that is necessary, or even a good idea.
As for Mark Wahlberg, while I don't hate him, and have actually liked some of his movies...yeah, that's got to be a joke, right? There is no way he has the same presence as RDJ to play that role, let alone acting ability. He's good in the types of movies he has done, for the most part, but some roles he shouldn't even think about. I mean, that's up there with him saying he could have played Lincoln if Daniel Day-Lewis didn't want it, that's how much RDJ IS Tony Stark.
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My thoughts with the Gauntlet currently being in the Vault in Asgard. All of Thor 2 is a diversion. The Dark Elves invading Earth and Asgard so Thanos can steal the Gauntlet. My bet is it will not be main movie time of it either. It will be stolen in the credits and lead to Guardians.
Thanos quest will be in guardians, where thanos goes after the owners of the gems to complete the gauntlet is my guess. Though it would be ultimately awesome if marvel made that a separate movie, just to completely set up the villain, to show how fucking nuts he is. And to get the point across how powerful those gems are separate, let alone combined
dear fucking Khorne, you just gave me one of the greatest nerdgasm of my life....i really didnt consider it at all. This could be an AMAZING phase 3 movie....holy shit the awesomeness
I would love it if they did that. They spent so much time setting up the good guys, why not the badguy. So when avengers 3 premiers everyone who saw thanos quest will just nod and say " avengers are fucked..." And you have no hope for them winning. Make avengers 3 a 2 part movie half a year apart.
So let's imagine they actually did make thanos quest a stand alone movie, you would be able to introduce thanos, death, the gems and it's power. And focus on the tactical prowess and utter lunacy of thanos. Make him be intriguing and also respect his enormous level of power, and what he is about to obtain. Loki gives him the gauntlet, and feeds him the info about the gems.
Thanos quest is done, and now you want to set up the avengers 3. Like i said a 2 parter, because you cannot do infinity gauntlet justice in 1 movie.
Open with thanos angry as fuck at death for shunning him after he sort of betrayed her, her envoy sais something like "you betrayed your mistress, you revere her, you love her, but you went past her and became more powerful that death itself, Loki (replacing mephisto) whispers something in thanos' ear wich angers thanos and he sends a power surge through the galaxy that litterrally knocks silver surfer off his board, and surfer immediately realises what happened and he sets off to earth where he finds the guardians of the galaxy ship adrift after being hit by the same ripple. He boards the ship and sees the guardians scramble trying to patch up the ship in panic yelling they have to set course to earth to inform the avengers and especially thor what happened, and the danger that is ahead. Surfer goed ahead and crash lands in the sanctum sanctorum of dr. Strange, the guardians land on earth almost litterrally crashing into a helicarrier. They get intercepted by nick fury and they explain who they are and what is about to happen.
The avengers get assembled, add some appearances by captain marvel, black panther and lets just fantasize the fantastic four are no longer property of fox, they get called up too. Add nova? Quasar? You need some space guys i guess.
Dr. Strange appears in a big flash with a severely exhausted silver surfer in the middle of them all and everything gets explained about who thanos is and what terrifying weapon he wields. Thor recognises the gauntlet they speak of and ports away trying to find loki, who isn't there, he informs odin, who assembles the other asgardians to prepare an attack.
Stark and reed richards repair the guardians ship and they all set off into space, maybe add ronan the accuser who apparently is being introduced in the guardians of the galaxy movie, and gladiator and some other notable alien heroes( no beta ray bill!) to make the force that is off to attack thanos more impressive.
And the battle starts, with dr. Strange keeping everyone alive in space. Thanos just laughs and shows some power, where loki gives the heroes a fighting chance with his manipulation where he informs thanos that death might be impressed if he gives the heroes a fighting chance, thanos drunk with power agrees and tells loki he will only use a fraction of the power he has.
A lot of fighting goes on, and thanos almost loses the gauntlet to silver surfer who flies in hyper speed and narrowly misses the gauntlet. Thanos becomes enraged and uses his full potential to defeat the heroes. End the first part with ships broken and adrift, heroes heavily wounded and a total devastation.....credits.
Part 2 begins in a white space, odin and a heavily beaten thor make their plea to a voice, who answers they will not interfere and risk destroying all reality. Eternity will not join the battle(wich solves that problem) but they will send someone to aid in battle. Big flash of light, and we're being dropped in the middle of the guardians spaceship that made their escape with a handful of avengers and a lot of heavily wounded heroes. A deafening voice scares the everliving crap out of silver surfer, who explains to dr strange that his master has entered the battle. Queue a big round orb appearing, and galactus stepping outside.
Galactus was followed by 2 celestials, who are explained by silver surfer to be caretakers of the universe, a race of gigantic entities. The celestials move towards thanos, thanos floating in space with energy dripping off his hands in a pose that screams "bring it on!" His eyes on fire he flies headfirst into one of the celestials and like a bullet enters and exits a celestial chest. The other does a thunderclap swatting thanos like a fly. His hands explode and thanos is now even more angry. Galactus hurls a few planets at thanos, and sends a meteor shower at him. Thanos flies to galactus and odin and the aesir appear, with thor and a person that also gets introduced in guardians of the galaxy, thanos' daughter nebula. She moves towards "dad" and in an unguarded moment thanos loses the gauntlet to nebula. She gets overpowered by the gems and inexperienced as she is wielding it, the time for a last ditch effort to defeat the wielder of the gauntlet succeeds as mjolnir clocks her in the side of her head, all the remaining heroes give everything they have left in bringing her down, and loki, who turned coat as he sees thanos getting defeated, takes the gauntlet. Thor and loki stand face to face and odin sides thor and destroys the gauntlet.
Drax the destroyer sees his chance to kill thanos and plunges an aesir spear in thanos' chest. Death walks up to thanos and sends him off to his death, and whisk everyone away to their respective places in the galaxy.
That is how i would want to see it done. Despite the few property problems, this way you can leave out a lot of cannonfodder superheroes, nix the xmen, nix spiderman who has no business there, and you don't have to bothe with adam warlock and the infinity watch. Adam warlock is hell to introduce, as it's such a complicated character....
So this was my fantasy screenplay lol.
So let's imagine they actually did make thanos quest a stand alone movie, you would be able to introduce thanos, death, the gems and it's power. And focus on the tactical prowess and utter lunacy of thanos. Make him be intriguing and also respect his enormous level of power, and what he is about to obtain. Loki gives him the gauntlet, and feeds him the info about the gems.
Thanos quest is done, and now you want to set up the avengers 3. Like i said a 2 parter, because you cannot do infinity gauntlet justice in 1 movie.
Open with thanos angry as fuck at death for shunning him after he sort of betrayed her, her envoy sais something like "you betrayed your mistress, you revere her, you love her, but you went past her and became more powerful that death itself, Loki (replacing mephisto) whispers something in thanos' ear wich angers thanos and he sends a power surge through the galaxy that litterrally knocks silver surfer off his board, and surfer immediately realises what happened and he sets off to earth where he finds the guardians of the galaxy ship adrift after being hit by the same ripple. He boards the ship and sees the guardians scramble trying to patch up the ship in panic yelling they have to set course to earth to inform the avengers and especially thor what happened, and the danger that is ahead. Surfer goed ahead and crash lands in the sanctum sanctorum of dr. Strange, the guardians land on earth almost litterrally crashing into a helicarrier. They get intercepted by nick fury and they explain who they are and what is about to happen.
The avengers get assembled, add some appearances by captain marvel, black panther and lets just fantasize the fantastic four are no longer property of fox, they get called up too. Add nova? Quasar? You need some space guys i guess.
Dr. Strange appears in a big flash with a severely exhausted silver surfer in the middle of them all and everything gets explained about who thanos is and what terrifying weapon he wields. Thor recognises the gauntlet they speak of and ports away trying to find loki, who isn't there, he informs odin, who assembles the other asgardians to prepare an attack.
Stark and reed richards repair the guardians ship and they all set off into space, maybe add ronan the accuser who apparently is being introduced in the guardians of the galaxy movie, and gladiator and some other notable alien heroes( no beta ray bill!) to make the force that is off to attack thanos more impressive.
And the battle starts, with dr. Strange keeping everyone alive in space. Thanos just laughs and shows some power, where loki gives the heroes a fighting chance with his manipulation where he informs thanos that death might be impressed if he gives the heroes a fighting chance, thanos drunk with power agrees and tells loki he will only use a fraction of the power he has.
A lot of fighting goes on, and thanos almost loses the gauntlet to silver surfer who flies in hyper speed and narrowly misses the gauntlet. Thanos becomes enraged and uses his full potential to defeat the heroes. End the first part with ships broken and adrift, heroes heavily wounded and a total devastation.....credits.
Part 2 begins in a white space, odin and a heavily beaten thor make their plea to a voice, who answers they will not interfere and risk destroying all reality. Eternity will not join the battle(wich solves that problem) but they will send someone to aid in battle. Big flash of light, and we're being dropped in the middle of the guardians spaceship that made their escape with a handful of avengers and a lot of heavily wounded heroes. A deafening voice scares the everliving crap out of silver surfer, who explains to dr strange that his master has entered the battle. Queue a big round orb appearing, and galactus stepping outside.
Galactus was followed by 2 celestials, who are explained by silver surfer to be caretakers of the universe, a race of gigantic entities. The celestials move towards thanos, thanos floating in space with energy dripping off his hands in a pose that screams "bring it on!" His eyes on fire he flies headfirst into one of the celestials and like a bullet enters and exits a celestial chest. The other does a thunderclap swatting thanos like a fly. His hands explode and thanos is now even more angry. Galactus hurls a few planets at thanos, and sends a meteor shower at him. Thanos flies to galactus and odin and the aesir appear, with thor and a person that also gets introduced in guardians of the galaxy, thanos' daughter nebula. She moves towards "dad" and in an unguarded moment thanos loses the gauntlet to nebula. She gets overpowered by the gems and inexperienced as she is wielding it, the time for a last ditch effort to defeat the wielder of the gauntlet succeeds as mjolnir clocks her in the side of her head, all the remaining heroes give everything they have left in bringing her down, and loki, who turned coat as he sees thanos getting defeated, takes the gauntlet. Thor and loki stand face to face and odin sides thor and destroys the gauntlet.
Drax the destroyer sees his chance to kill thanos and plunges an aesir spear in thanos' chest. Death walks up to thanos and sends him off to his death, and whisk everyone away to their respective places in the galaxy.
That is how i would want to see it done. Despite the few property problems, this way you can leave out a lot of cannonfodder superheroes, nix the xmen, nix spiderman who has no business there, and you don't have to bothe with adam warlock and the infinity watch. Adam warlock is hell to introduce, as it's such a complicated character....
So this was my fantasy screenplay lol.
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I don't see how they can pull off the hero portion of the Infinity Gauntlet. You pretty well have to bring in everyone not to mention all the cosmic beings. I would love to see it attempted.
I don't know why... maybe his voice just sounds cool to me but I'm voting for Faramir to be Adam Warlock. I think the Marvel Universe really needs Adam Warlock. (Which is inevitable if they take their current storyline much further).
The Marvel live-action universe is significantly smaller. You could bring in "everybody" and still have a lot less people. And in a lot of ways that's better. Who really gives a shit what Moon Knight is doing during the infinity crisis?
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well ok. But you didn't really get specific there.
You didn't mind taking a cosmic cube from local reality warping device, and turning it into a generic power source?
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hopefully movie version of Wanda will be tuned down/back to probability altering.