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Rezz

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Damn =/ He seemed like a chill dude (for being a former porn team's bouncer)
 

Captain Suave

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Sat down and listened to the entire 2 hour thing with Helwani. Kind of want my 2 hours back and feel like he could have summed it up in a couple of minutes, but it is what it is. I'm not really surprised that the UFC is that controlling, and I think we've all known that for years now.

I understand it has to be rough for him, but I thought about stopping this a couple of times, mostly due to getting tired of listening to him get choked up over a 2 our period.

Late to the party, but holy crap, Rockhold is a giant cock. Bisping was being brash as they exchanged verbal shots, yes, but he made peace offerings several times to allow both of them to finish like gentlemen. Bisping basically even said straight up that Rockhold was a better fighter and that he got lucky. Luke just couldn't let himself man up and take the olive branch. Right as the conference ended you can even see Bisping trying to shake his hand and Rockhold refusing. Luke is an awesome fighter and I really want to like him but he just acts like such smug, pretentious dill-weed.
 

Ameraves

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So Joe's argument is that since the information was going to come out anyway, Ariel was wrong? Cause that is sort of what it sounds like.
 

Lenas

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Well he's right. Scooping the story a couple of hours before the UFC announces it is nothing but self-promotion from Ariel. I still stand by my original post on the situation which is basically, don't bite the hand that feeds. Ariel got bitch slapped, everyone made up and now we'll still get solid reporting but fewer insider scoops.
 

Jive Turkey

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I think his argument is that Ariel's claim that it's his journalistic duty is a bit dramatic since it's just a fight announcement and not some nefarious situation he's uncovering. Or that he's selfishly spoiling the surprise just to get eyes on him. Less to do with journalistic integrity and more to do with not being a jerk.

Plus, Dana is right; Ariel might not be doing anything illegal, but whoever is feeding him the information certainly is
 

Jive Turkey

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Signing a NDA then leaking the information to the press?

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Captain Suave

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Breach of a legally binding contract. Semantics
Hardly. Breach of an NDA is a civil violation, not criminal (unless you're divulging some government secrets). It can't get you prison time. Depending on the NDA you might be subject to penalties specified in the wrongful termination section of your contract, or maybe damages if the other party sues. Generally, though, the other party just gets to say "fuck you" and that's the end of it.
 

Erronius

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Well he's right. Scooping the story a couple of hours before the UFC announces it is nothing but self-promotion from Ariel. I still stand by my original post on the situation which is basically, don't bite the hand that feeds. Ariel got bitch slapped, everyone made up and now we'll still get solid reporting but fewer insider scoops.
Journalists always try to scoop because that's how they generate revenue. That's been the way of it for longer than any of us has been alive. They have to do that to sell newspapers, magazines, or ads on online sites. Journalists that don't scoop stories aren't very good journalists and expecting journalists to sit on stories and risk losing a scoop isn't very realistic. And Ariel even mentioned that he'd sat on a story or two before and let someone else pick it up later...but that translates into some other journalist and site benefiting from it.

So saying that it's nothing but self-promotion...I mean, c'mon man.

All this tells me is that the UFC has internal issues and going after a prominent journalist like Helwani signals that they don't know who is leaking or how to address it. And while I'm sure for a short while other journalists will want to walk on eggshells, this fear of reprisal from the UFC is not going to last.
 

calhoonjugganaut

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One would think if they are going to air a promo with Brock Lesnar in it, a lot of people would know about it. Probably even the fighters. Furthermore, I don't think Helwani would sell anyone out for some information that will be available to the public in only a few hours time anyways. I know they wanted it to be a big surprise or whatever, but what do they really expect when it comes to some news like that. Especially in 2016. I'm surprised no one figured it out sooner.