Monster Hunter Series

Nija

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How do you guys put up with the dogshit character controls and combat in this series? What am I overlooking? I can't make it more than 15 minutes - it's just TERRIBLE.
 

Knytestorme_sl

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How do you guys put up with the dogshit character controls and combat in this series? What am I overlooking? I can't make it more than 15 minutes - it's just TERRIBLE.
By not trying to play it as a button-masher, taking time with the combat and working combos.

Key seems to be making sure to be as prepared as possible (eg rations at start to increase stamina bar, make sure to keep weapon at max sharpness, know your combos, make sure to be in best armour/weapon for your prefered style etc) and realising you have ~50 minutes to kill a mob, don't have to go balls out from the start. It's a slower DMC/Bayonetta style combat than anything imo......though one change I'd love would be being able to consume items without having to put away my weapon, but given you can attack with weapon draw it's not that big a deal once you get in the habit.
 

Intrinsic

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Yeah, depending on the weapon type (and even then it really applies more broadly I think...) it is a much slower game than it would have you believe. Big monsters, lots of little monsters, evades, seems like you should be doing a lot and pew pew all the time. But all attacks have real wind ups and wind downs, some that can be cancelled, some that can't, some in to chains or dives. A lot of words to say just take it slow.

But I will say there are still places where they go out of their way to kick you in the balls and be difficult. It is very japanese or JRPG in the menu system and dialog stuff.
 

GeneralF

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I am new to this series and wow is there a lot of things to learn. Main problem I'm having right now is with the camera, even while using L to center on target and the circle pad pro. I guess I'll get used to that! But the sheer amount of information to learn is staggering. I can't even process half of what I read on boards. I'm having fun though!

When I know a bit more about what I'm doing I'll try multiplayer and post my NNID.
 

Knytestorme_sl

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I am new to this series and wow is there a lot of things to learn. Main problem I'm having right now is with the camera, even while using L to center on target and the circle pad pro. I guess I'll get used to that! But the sheer amount of information to learn is staggering. I can't even process half of what I read on boards. I'm having fun though!

When I know a bit more about what I'm doing I'll try multiplayer and post my NNID.
Camera is always a bitch, I even dislike it on wii-u but eventually you'll handle it.

One thing to note, which I'm nore sure if I read here to on reddit is that the modifiers on gear (eg +2 Stam) only take effect once you have +10 or better total across all pieces
 

Utnayan

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What a fitting end. I decided to try and really get into mh3 ultimate on wii u. Booted it up, memory error. I could play any other games. So I tried deleting mh3 ultimate and reinstall and it wouldn't let me. Now the thing won't boot. Bricked wii u. Looks like a lot of memory errors because I have the same error code as many others. I'm out of warranty and will try Nintendo tomorrow to see if they are fixing this. Seems to be wide spread enough.
 

Rezz

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Camera is always a bitch, I even dislike it on wii-u but eventually you'll handle it.

One thing to note, which I'm nore sure if I read here to on reddit is that the modifiers on gear (eg +2 Stam) only take effect once you have +10 or better total across all pieces
Yeah, the same goes for penalties. You have to get -10 penalty in a stat for it to trigger, otherwise the negative skill points mean nothing.

The camera isn't all that bad, it's just making sure that when fighting big stuff you hit L pretty frequently to keep it centered. That way you can time dodges/blocks/whatever better. For small monsters, I have my cat set up to engage small first, so he tends to run around throwing his boomerang at normal mobs while I tango with the big chief. Has been working well so far, just downed the Gyperos or whatever the one that pretends it is dead is.
 

Dandain

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Think of the combat system as requiring you to be extremely deliberate - animation locking is a thing games either do or don't in action titles. Monster hunter is highly animation locked, a wrong button press costs potential damage or health most of the time. There are a lot more nuances to the weapons than you think. Stamina management like dark souls is a thing, the auto lock camera control has an extremely smooth interaction with evasion. If you roll to evade the large monster, the moment is passes your fov - tap L, as your character recovers you will be oriented camera wise facing the enemy. I also went through the options settings as I am very particular about camera controls. One that I think might be generally useful makes L shoulder (when no large monster targeted) reorient the camera behind your character. For me this is my much preferred behavior as I use this command in other action games. It may be worth trying out.

Is there a way to message someone on your friends list or invite them to a game?

Definitely had a good time with Cyrus - in multiplayer once you have 3+ players the cats disappear.
 

cyrusreij

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Think of the combat system as requiring you to be extremely deliberate - animation locking is a thing games either do or don't in action titles. Monster hunter is highly animation locked, a wrong button press costs potential damage or health most of the time. There are a lot more nuances to the weapons than you think. Stamina management like dark souls is a thing, the auto lock camera control has an extremely smooth interaction with evasion. If you roll to evade the large monster, the moment is passes your fov - tap L, as your character recovers you will be oriented camera wise facing the enemy. I also went through the options settings as I am very particular about camera controls. One that I think might be generally useful makes L shoulder (when no large monster targeted) reorient the camera behind your character. For me this is my much preferred behavior as I use this command in other action games. It may be worth trying out.

Is there a way to message someone on your friends list or invite them to a game?

Definitely had a good time with Cyrus - in multiplayer once you have 3+ players the cats disappear.
Sadly the multi player interface is lacking, if not in a room with a friend. You can't send a message, and you cannot even see if someone is online unless they are already in a room. If someone is doing single player stuff you will not know they are there unless you tab out and check your friends list on the main screen, but even then you can't message them, so hooking up with friends is a bit of a crap shoot at the moment.

Killed Gore Malaga twice out of four tries tonight on multi. Motherfucker is nasty hard, heaven help you if you don't manage your virus well and don't boost your health to 150. He can easily two shot people with 150 hp when enraged, it only gets worse with less health and the damage bonus from the virus. One more feeler though from my solo kill will give me his axe though, which is a very early dragon element compared to 3U. Also it looks like a scythe which is pretty awesome.
 

Man0warr

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I would highly advise anyone who is still in the early stages of the game to build a full set of Tetsucabra armor. Most skills are fairly not important early game, but Tetsu armor has +HP and Torso Up on it, so all you need is a single Health Decoration (easily craftable early on) and you get +50 HP, which in the early game is a huge leg up; as food will not provide you with +50 HP until later in the game.
Do you mean the Tetsucabra + armor? The low level version chest piece doesn't have a slot for a Health decoration.

I've been using the Insect Glaive (finally got a Gore feeler so crafted the Gore weapon) and am really digging it, but the Kinsect upgrading part of it is still kind of mysterious to me.

Only complaint I have with the game (and same complaint I've had with every one i've played) is not sharing progress for Urgent quests on multiplayer - makes it tough to rank up because you can't guarantee the others will help you clear the mission after you help them.

Also it seems like the only Gathering Hall you can't search for is the ones for Urgent quests - since the Urgent quests are technically quests that are a rank above yours you can't search for "Gore Magala" as a target until AFTER you rank up. Makes it hard to find a hall with people doing the urgent quest you need.

I just need to kill the Seltas Queen to unlock the Rank 3 Urgent (which is a mohran boat fight, always fun).
 

cyrusreij

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Do you mean the Tetsucabra + armor? The low level version chest piece doesn't have a slot for a Health decoration.

I've been using the Insect Glaive (finally got a Gore feeler so crafted the Gore weapon) and am really digging it, but the Kinsect upgrading part of it is still kind of mysterious to me.

Only complaint I have with the game (and same complaint I've had with every one i've played) is not sharing progress for Urgent quests on multiplayer - makes it tough to rank up because you can't guarantee the others will help you clear the mission after you help them.

Also it seems like the only Gathering Hall you can't search for is the ones for Urgent quests - since the Urgent quests are technically quests that are a rank above yours you can't search for "Gore Magala" as a target until AFTER you rank up. Makes it hard to find a hall with people doing the urgent quest you need.

I just need to kill the Seltas Queen to unlock the Rank 3 Urgent (which is a mohran boat fight, always fun).
Regular Tetsu set has two sockets. One on the head one on the hands. One gem for Health gives +2 Skill and the Set itself gives +13, so +15 gives you +50 HP. I use the other socket to gem out Gathering Down.
 

Man0warr

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Regular Tetsu set has two sockets. One on the head one on the hands. One gem for Health gives +2 Skill and the Set itself gives +13, so +15 gives you +50 HP. I use the other socket to gem out Gathering Down.
Ah forgot it already had 13, was thinking it only had 10.

I'm making the Gore/Ceanataur combo armor now.
 

Utnayan

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Welp, plus one for Nintendo Customer Care. My Wii U is a launch Wii U and they are repairing it for free and also expediting shipping to 2 day ship. This must be a fairly well known issue, but I am glad they are taking care of it.
 

Man0warr

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It's pretty rare for Wii U's (or Nintendo products in general) to fail, but the corrupt memory error is probably the one that is the most common.
 

Sithro

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There a specific set of armor I should farm before fighting Gore Magala? This dude fucked me up in that quest thing, so it might be time for me to get some new armor. Any suggestions? I'm a Hammer user.
 

spronk

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What a fitting end. I decided to try and really get into mh3 ultimate on wii u. Booted it up, memory error. I could play any other games. So I tried deleting mh3 ultimate and reinstall and it wouldn't let me. Now the thing won't boot. Bricked wii u. Looks like a lot of memory errors because I have the same error code as many others. I'm out of warranty and will try Nintendo tomorrow to see if they are fixing this. Seems to be wide spread enough.
you probably already sent yours in but its not really a memory error, just a file corruption on the wii u internal memory is unrecoverable because their OS sucks dick. The solution is to always use external hard drive with Wii U, corrupted files can be deleted on that (and a lot less chance of corruption anyways). I had the same problem, reinitializing my Wii U fixed it but after that I started using a 1tb external USB drive to keep all my games, don't play much anymore though since its pretty obvious the Wii U is a total piece of shit from a OS/hardware point of view, its just there as a party games system for when lots of people come over.
 

Big_w_powah

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A couple things I've seen mentioned:

The charge blade is fucking awesome. Learn to use it and you can burst harder than any other weapon. Getting an opportunity for that burst is hard though.

You CAN use items while your weapon is out if you use Sword/Shield.

Gore Magala scares me.

Is Tetsucabra armor really better than, say, Rathian armor? The extra 15 defense seems like it might matter a good amount, and doesn't Ian armor give +20 health?
 

Man0warr

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The low rank Tetsucabra armor can get +50 health very easily, plus the defense, and it's easy to make.

The high rank Testu armor is really good/easy to make too.

First wall I've run into is the Guild Rank 4 rank up quest (Pink Rathian), she is WAY harder than she was in MH3U.
 

Dandain

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I crafted the rathian stuff, just because I wanted something different. It worked fine. If you socket it it also gives 50 health, and +1 fire attack. I used a fire element weapon with it to get that bonus. The basic armor sphere works to like level 3 - you should just upgrade to that point almost anything you use. If anyone wants help/a party to do any multiplayer quests I'm game to join.