MTG: Arena

Burren said:

Fucking LAND DESTRUCTION is a thing again? Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?

No, I DON'T want to play, please remove ALL of my mana, thanks.

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Yeah it was pretty popular with savj when he grinded to mythic so probably a good chunk or people still playing it.

Chimney said:

Decided to try burn with skewer and light up the stage and it's actually really nice.

Seems to make playing with guttersnipe and electrostatic field viable.

Got a lucky loop with steamkin and managed to play almost 20 cards on turn 4 from what started as a pretty shitty opener to end the game.

Would still like to try radkos version, but trying to not blow my remaining wilds or spending $100 before meta settles.

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2 Ghitu Lavarunner (DAR) 127
4 Wizard's Lightning (DAR) 152
1 Fanatical Firebrand (RIX) 101
3 Lightning Strike (XLN) 149
22 Mountain (RIX) 195
2 Guttersnipe (M19) 145
1 Lightning Strike (M19) 152
4 Shock (M19) 156
4 Viashino Pyromancer (M19) 166
3 Electrostatic Field (GRN) 97
2 Risk Factor (GRN) 113
4 Light Up the Stage (RNA) 107
4 Skewer the Critics (RNA) 115
4 Spear Spewer (RNA) 117

mono red burn im using atm.
cheap as heck, since risk factor is the only card that is not common or uncommon.
based on the reddit deck. after I also noted spewers seemed amazing. I made a few changes while playing games though.

steamkin and chainwhirlers are probably more consistant.
I did not fully understand Light up the stage, until playing it. I misunderstood it to be "Until the end of your turn, you may play those cards." not, "Until the end of your NEXT turn,"
Which is obviously a HUGE difference, and solves monored burn card draw.

Improvements that could be made from playing at bit. 4 guttersnipes? 2 spear spewers. Great for burn, poke, and enabling spectacle. however at no point is 4 needed in one game, since they don't enable guttersnipe or electrostatic field procs. 2 is probably enough. although, 3 might be more consistent with draws, and they can poke for damage, over and over.. which ghitu and firebrands can't.
only 2 ghitu is intentional. deck this is based on did run 4, however, they are almost entirely just to enable wiz lightning.. And are basically useless past turn 2 after opp has put down their own creatures.
4 risks factors is a solid option as well. only don't due to not wanting to spend the wildcards.
keld sucks. light up the stage, and risk factor both make it pointless.
I'm running more mountains then the reddit deck. I found I was getting mana flooded, or screwed way too much with the 20 recommended.


Also, reddit is overreacting. this "new" monored burn is cheap, and very direct. but not especially strong. it probably is weaker then again, the steamkin,chainwhirler. its super weak vs counterspells, and life gain. White Revitalize, fountain, moment of triumph. black, moment of craving wrecks it, sovereign bite, etc. not so much life link, more the direct life gain.

I played versus some blue/red aggro, and black/red aggro which were probably more consistent all around.


I wonder if dropping wizards, and wiz lighting is an option? skewer the critics is clearly much stronger. should we be trying to double cast or copy it?

I think I'm settling with this for the next few dozens games and see how it goes. I'd like to ditch the steam-kin completely even though they are nice when they pop off, but they make for great removal bait instead of the guttersnipes.

You essentially end up with 16 1 drops if you have a wizard or spectacle up. Light Up The Stage/Risk Factors smooths out card draw and add damage if you have any electro/guttersnipes out and there are so many creature threats that need to be removed even if they aren't attacking that if your opp doesn't have a board wipe or spikey early healing they've probably lost. Counter spells haven't been a huge deal since CMC is so low. Only ran into one discard deck, but by the 2nd thought erasure I just conceded and moved on.

If Double Cast was instant spell then maybe I could see it, but at sorcery speed it's too risky.

Edit: Jeff Hoogland is running this iteration which seems pretty great in bo3.

Learn by doing!

Kiroy said:

the bright side of bo1 being such a cancerous pit of rdw or radkos hell right now is I bet it's pushing a lot of people to try bo3

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What rank? I stopped when I hit platinum because rewards suck vs other options, but played a dozen games this weekend to see how RNA changed things and I only have 1 RDW and 1 radkos. The rest are pretty varied.

Oh quick play and constructed has been pretty varied for me as well. I like bo3 on paper, but in arena it's just too long to commit when I can usually pop 5-10 games an hour in bo1 in the same time frame.

Kiroy said:

I never really understood the "too long of commitment" argument with bo3 unless you've got gold/gems into it, if it's causal bo3 and something comes up and you gotta go just concede out?

On the otherhand, I do like popping off a few bo1 games now and again, just cause you can see and play a ton more decks, but ya, i'm running into rdw, radkos or ww every bo1 game, i've built against it and am doing fine but it gets a little old so I shifted into bo3 - decks are way more varied

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It's just an efficiency thing. I typically play to grind out the dailies and then I'm done and that's mostly via constructed events. If I'm traveling for work then I have time to dedicate solely to MTGA since it is one of the few games I can play on my laptops, but I also just got a Switch so that will probably trump my gaming free time.

MTGA somehow uninstalled itself again on my pc, this is really strange