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Arbitrary
Tranny Chaser
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It'll probably be fine in Standard and Limited but never ever anywhere else. I don't like the idea of then having different mulligans for different formats.
ronne
Nǐ hǎo, yǒu jīn zi ma?
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Hypergeometric math is what, like 98% to hit a leyline if you mull all the way down to 1? I look forward to watching that game on camera vs dredge.
This probably also makes modern belcher actually playable. I cannot imagine this becoming the actual new rule after whatever dumpster fire happens in London, unless their plan is just to burn modern to the ground to force Arena Modern on everyone.
This is totally fine in Standard. I'm also fine with them having different mulligans for different formats. Most competition is Standard/Limited. Keep it how it is for Vintage/Legacy/Modern.
Arbitrary
Tranny Chaser
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Different mulligans for different formats plus an additional layer of RNG fuckery thrown on top of Arena to create less games in which at least one player didn't get to actually play the game rubs me the wrong way and reeks of deeper problems but I'm willing to concede it might just be autism.
Scry N is okay too. I think the way it is now is garbage, and it's been garbage. There was that website that ran an analysis of "do I get manascrewed often" and it came up with "our data shows that 69% of all tracked games fall within a healthy range" which to me is a shit ratio. Other games have done it better, the mana issue that is, MTG just has usually better lore, better art, and better other systems, and it's larger established playerbase. I don't think saying 69% of games there's no manascrew/flood is good. Every time I've quit Magic for any length of time I've been pissed about lands. The website in question (Debunking the Evil Shuffler | Who Tracks the Trackers?) calls it "debunked" but to me sitting there like a jackass either the victim or the "beneficiary" of manafuck is garbage--and it happens 30% of the time! Scry N/London Mulligan does something to address this, though I think there needs to be a major design shift to fix it permanently.
I have some ideas on how to do that but the idea of land is so entrenched and the 1 card per turn...I'll probably quit at some point for some length of time again due to it, I'm sure.
I have some ideas on how to do that but the idea of land is so entrenched and the 1 card per turn...I'll probably quit at some point for some length of time again due to it, I'm sure.
pharmakos
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Scry N almost seems more overpowered to me. London Mulligan leaves you guessing if you'll draw into your curve, Scry N let's you set up the ideal curve for N turns.
Sterling
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Scry N would give you more opportunity to keep some cards on top instead of the bottom, London mulligan gives you much higher control over your actual opening hand. While Scry N would be better in some instances London Mulligan will be better in a much higher percentage of hands.
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4 Pteramanders in each of them, I knew that card was the right call in Mono blue.
This meta is about consistency and when you can run 8-12 one drops that are good and Curious Obsession on unblockables or flyers...it's consistent as hell. I have no doubt that I could grind to the max medal or whatever in MTGA with it, but I don't quite care enough yet. I think I'm 2 below max. I prefer playing in person and 4-0ing at FNM with the odd 3-1 in there.
Chris
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I'm assuming that the London Mulligan is the way that Arena best of one games get you more consistent lands using the shuffler.
So if they want to have best of one be their online competitive streaming format, they need to have the players control it to avoid accusations of RNG bias with the shuffler.
So if they want to have best of one be their online competitive streaming format, they need to have the players control it to avoid accusations of RNG bias with the shuffler.
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Gates players on turn one taking 15 seconds to play their comes-into-play-tapped land. Monored players thinking about their next move when they have 1 card in hand. B/G explore players taking the maximum time for EVERY EXPLORE TRIGGER.
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pharmakos
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It got much harder for me to progress once I hit Plat 4. Might have to step up your game.