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The collector boosters sold out on Amazon for Final Fantasy already. Never seen them sell out so fast. This set is gonna be huge:
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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So I grabbed the cloud / sephiroth decks for $20 on Amazon. My son is playing ff7 original now and just got into magic about 6 months ago.
OneofOne
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Photoshop. I'm assured this kind of thing doesn't happen.
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Urlithani
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Yeah I think I'm done. I have the money, but for the time investment and with a family it's more than I'm willing to spend.
I get that Spider man and Final Fantasy have licensing fees to pay, and therefore are premium set pricing, but having that be Standard and Pioneer legal really throws a wrench into everything. I don't think WoTC can see past the greed to see how this will shoot themselves in the foot in the future.
The next move is: "we've heard your confusion about pricing between premium UB sets, and normal Universes Within sets, so we are going to raise the pricing of Universes Within to match the pricing of premium sets to avoid any further confusion."
Edit: I love prerelease and draft, so with 6 pre-release events a year and a few drafts, I'm still playing, just not as much.
I get that Spider man and Final Fantasy have licensing fees to pay, and therefore are premium set pricing, but having that be Standard and Pioneer legal really throws a wrench into everything. I don't think WoTC can see past the greed to see how this will shoot themselves in the foot in the future.
The next move is: "we've heard your confusion about pricing between premium UB sets, and normal Universes Within sets, so we are going to raise the pricing of Universes Within to match the pricing of premium sets to avoid any further confusion."
Edit: I love prerelease and draft, so with 6 pre-release events a year and a few drafts, I'm still playing, just not as much.
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ronne
Nǐ hǎo, yǒu jīn zi ma?
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They don't actually care if you quit - you aren't their demographic anymore.
The actual players of Magic are only a rounding error in the market they are chasing now. They've seen the absolute frenzy around Pokemon, and the general undying loyalty of consoomer culture to everything Marvel/Star Wars/Disney/etc, and the plan is just to make what amounts to cardboard Funcopops to sell to those people. Those people don't actually play Magic, not in any form that you would recognize. At best they've played Commander a few times.
Anyone that plays paper standard is just not their audience anymore, and they only begrudgingly even maintain it's existence because the backlash to ending it would be too annoying.
They'll keep making a new Modern Horizon's type set every couple years because it's free money, but each one will further decimate the format via insane power creep and eventually that well will run dry.
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Arbitrary
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The first video is about the finals of Pro Tour Paris 1997 with Mike Long and Pros Bloom versus Mark Justice on a R/B aggro deck. The format was Mirage block constructed with Weatherlight not out yet. The second is about the deck Olle Rade used to win Pro Tour Columbus in 1996. The format was Ice Age/Alliances constructed. Long's Pros Bloom is the first combo deck to prove itself in competitive play outside of Type 1. Rade's deck is ass but it was the right ass for the job. This is the stuff that I like about Magic the Gathering. The gamesmanship between players, the deck building and the competition.
The revenue generated by people in that camp is dwarfed by the casuals, the EDH crowd and the other consoomer whales. WotC has been slowly shrinking competitive play, prize pools and their own Hall of Fame / Legends program for I think coming up on two decades. The math has dictated they go in a different direction and now we're here and the game in no way resembles the one I was originally captivated by.
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Chris
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It's not sustainable though, it will burn out.
The casuals are in their 30s and 40s with disposable income, they only like Marvel/Final Fantasy cards because they played MTG as kids or it's a nerd status thing they are in orbit of.
Children are not excited for 20 year old Final Fantasy characters in a 30 year old paper card game.
This means that the game is dying, there'll be more and more expensive and nostalgic products until sales are not sustainable.
Marvel and DC comics are much further along this journey and would be shutting down if they weren't IP farms for movie studios.
OneofOne
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Look, I'm as annoyed by all this alt universe stuff as anyone else, but running around like Chicken Little screaming about the sky is falling... settle down, Francis. MTG is doing quite well financially, and shows no signs of slowing down. Don't take my word for it - the revenue and profit numbers are public. Maybe the game will morph into something completely unrecognizable to you and me, but that doesn't mean it'll die.
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I just sat and watch this goddamn video, I swear to God I think I watched this with my buddies back in high school, and I want to say it was on ESPN which was just nuts.
God damn shit is crazy, but back in the day, sniffing packs, it really was good stuff. Mind you I started playing right on the ass end of Antiquities,
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Justice would later get tossed out of a Pro Tour with Tempest draft as the format due to a forth Muscle Sliver he could not account for. It was vastly different in color and feel from from the others. He tried to claim that his forth got damaged and he bought a replacement from a vendor. Alright, you said you threw it away? Which garbage can.
Something I've come to understand over the years is that cheating was rampant for most of Magic's history.
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I guess that's one of the reasons I kind of like the online deal is because the shits hard coded in, and even if the rules might get junky, at least it's consistent.
I don't live that's not as if when we were playing back in the day and there would be the random tournament that they do around the comic book store would run, he'd run a goddamn room next door in this crappy motel, but would easily get 20 30 kids at a high school to show up, everybody just played and had fun.
This was back when you ran a bunch of nightmares or the assassin card, and maybe a lord of the pit if you were plugging a badass black deck. You were really balling if you had a couple of icy manipulators to go with the assassins.
It was just so much fun back then. I think the only thing I had more fun doing during high school was just playing paintball, but you had time to do both.
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Palum
what Suineg set it to
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lmao this game is so dumb now. Rent-a-customer. But lmao that counterspell is amazing for reasons unrelated to the game.