Murders and Shootings

tad10_sl said:

Cool then you can tell everyone all about the Committee on Style and Arrangement and Madison's place in said committee.

Thanks chum.

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Watch out- Araysar might pull out some citations, which is plagiarizing right? Where is Merlin anyways? Did he make the move to our new home?

Araysar_sl said:

You sound like an expert on it. Please tell us more about this committee and how "Madison liked to fuck with language".

All ears. Don't let us down.

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No Dude, you pulled out the "history" degree. I've got to defer to your expertise here on the Constitutional Convention. Pull out those books and school me bro.

tad10_sl said:

I'm sure the Yakuza follow these rules to the letter.

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If you read the article you would know...

Even the country's infamous, mafia-like Yakuza tend to forgo guns; the few exceptions tend to become big national news stories.

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Araysar_sl said:

So you're running away?

You made the claim. You have the burden of proof (did they teach you about this one at law school?).

Wow us.

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No dude, there is no burden of proof outside of a trial or an abitration. Thumbs High though.

And as I already said it is well known that the committee on style and arrangement, of which Madison was the prime mover, significantly modified a lot of the voted on Amendments from what was initially approved by the whole convention.

That you think I'm bullshitting you just shows how little you know about American History. You got robbed on your degree.

Yeah, I know if I didn't learn about the committee on style and arrangement in college, I'd definitely feel robbed.

Sebudai_sl said:

Yeah, I know if I didn't learn about the committee on style and arrangement in college, I'd definitely feel robbed.

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Why were you a History major too?

Buried in the gun debate, someone posted the nail on the head idea

This fucker only killed those people to become famous after death.

Boycot using his name or pictures of him. No mention of his name or pictures of him as other then the shooter on TV, Newspapers are even here on this site.

Talk about subject but just make the shooter nameless and faceless so he doesn't get what he wanted by killing all those children.

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Life worthless? Never going to be known for anything and fade into obscurity? If you can't became famous, then become infamous! Especially in today's 24/7 hyper saturated media market, virtually everyone in the civilized world will know your name (or at least what you did) within hours.

Granted the "strike his name from all records! So let it be written, so let it be done!" idea is virtually impossible, which is part of the appeal of this to those fucked in the head.

Araysar_sl said:

Really? Give me some specifics. Tell me what exactly did they change in the 2nd amendment. How did Madison "fuck with the language"? And by the way, is that the academic term for the Committee's revision of the 2nd amendment?

Do you have any sources?

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I think its funny that you, a history major is asking me for specifics on the Committee that you obviously didn't know existed despite its importance in the final form of the Constitution. Especially since on the other threads you're making categorically false statements (Italian Fascists invented totalitarianism) without offering proof yourself.

I've made a point that you can't disprove, balls in your court.

You are welcome to google and prove me wrong. Mr. History Major.

tad10_sl said:

I think its funny that you, a history major is asking me for specifics on the Committee that you obviously didn't know existed despite its importance in the final form of the Constitution. Especially since on the other threads you're making categorically false statements (Italian Fascists invented totalitarianism) without offering proof yourself.

I've made a point that you can't disprove, balls in your court.

You are welcome to google and prove me wrong. Mr. History Major.

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Ok Fanaskin.

Gavinrad_sl said:

Ok Fanaskin.

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Eh, I'll admit the discussion has degenerated from concern over 20 dead children and 7 dead adults to the methods of the Committee of Style and Arrangement.

But that's this fucked up forum.

Again, people have been walking into schools and shooting people since the 40's (Before then, but lets just say the 40's.) The difference is that these people tended to kill 1 or 2 people before killing themselves. The difference in the power of the weapons doesn't explain the lower body count, because the weapons used were certainly powerful enough to cause far, far more damage. The fact was that in most of these cases, the men didn't even try to kill anyone besides their target and then themselves.

The amount of deaths from these events has climbed as media saturation has become more intense. I'm completely on board with the forensic psychologist in one of the previous posts pointing toward the media's fetishistic coverage of the killer creating an appeal to do more damage before the crazy person kills themselves. Anyone who has read some Durkheim will understand that the media's coverage is ritualistic (Even how they present the story is almost like ritual now) and such large scale, unifying rituals are extremely inviting for certain elements in society (Everyone wants to be a big sports player? It's kind of like that, but for crazy people.) Combine that with lower access to quality mental (And general) healthcare, along with a less prosperous/hopeful view of life (Which almost always leads to higher crime rates) and you have a perfect brew for crazies.

I think, on the whole, we can prevent far more violent deaths (Maybe not mass shootings, but violence in general) by improving the quality of life for normal people--If we're not having that debate, about providing for basic human needs,beforegun control, then we're obviously only interested in how things look, rather than what will really help.

Completely unrelated to the actual topic, but as someone who was home schooled his entire life, DO NOT DO THAT TO YOUR CHILDREN. They have like a 99% chance to come out of it drooling social retards.