Murders and Shootings

Araxen · Dec 14, 2012

Famm_sl said:
Oh boo the fuck hoo. Literal babies die every day from malnutrition and dehydration. The human race is cruel and opportunistic. In general we enjoy a safety and security in this nation that is unheard of. Go dig irrigation ditches in Africa if you want to get misty eyed about the poor fucking children. Life is still cheap in general.

I bet more than 20 babies died in Africa today and no one gives two shits besides Sally Struthers.

Araysar · Dec 14, 2012

tad10_sl said:
Anyway the original wording of what became the Second Amendment was:

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person."

Wow, so it took like 2 hours to drag this out of you so you could just prove me right anyways.

Araysar · Dec 14, 2012

Famm_sl said:
Oh boo the fuck hoo. Literal babies die every day from malnutrition and dehydration. The human race is cruel and opportunistic. In general we enjoy a safety and security in this nation that is unheard of. Go dig irrigation ditches in Africa if you want to get misty eyed about the poor fucking children. Life is still cheap in general.

Pretty much this.

LadyVex_sl · Dec 14, 2012

Yes, but this isn't a topic about malnutrition and dehydration. Taking the thread and turning it into something that every other god damn thread becomes is retarded. Somethings should be above that, and when there's a giant post on the forums about babies starving to death I'll be equally upset about it as I am here.

But thankfully, assholes like you and Araysar will still be around to remind us all that some people are called human beings only because their genus and species says so, and not because of anything that morally indicates them as such.

Famm · Dec 14, 2012

Morality is often a matter of convenience. We can act morally superior only as long as we have enough to eat.

tad10 · Dec 14, 2012

LadyVex_sl said:
Just wanted to comment; I know this is foh, and have a thick skin, but I'm sort of sad to see what this post became. .

After Oklahoma City (168/19 Children), Columbine, 9/11, Various Other Shootings & Etc. I'm jaded and I'll admit it - to be honest the most surprising thing for me today were the comparisons to 9/11. There is no comparison. None. Zip. ~3000 (including 6 children) dying by terrorism was worse than today. Oklahoma City was worse than today.

Perhaps I'm comforted by the fact that I'm more religious now than I was on 9/11. I think the kid who did this will rot in Hell for eternity and the kids will get to Heaven. Not a lot of consolation for the Parents now, but some, in time.

Araysar · Dec 14, 2012

tad10_sl said:
After Oklahoma City (168/19 Children), Columbine, 9/11, Various Other Shootings & Etc. I'm jaded and I'll admit it - to be honest the most surprising thing for me today were the comparisons to 9/11. There is no comparison. None. Zip. ~3000 (including 6 children) dying by terrorism was worse than today. Oklahoma City was worse than today.

Perhaps I'm comforted by the fact that I'm more religious now than I was on 9/11. I think the kid who did this will rot in Hell for eternity and the kids will get to Heaven. Not a lot of consolation for the Parents now, but some, in time.

What if the kids were little sinners, tad?

I bet they are all gonna go to hell. Some of them were probably atheists too.

Voyce · Dec 14, 2012

This thread is filled with asshats, congrats on proving most of you suck as people. "boo hoo" Really? Well aren't you just a giant piece of shit.

Araysar · Dec 14, 2012

LadyVex_sl said:
Yes, but this isn't a topic about malnutrition and dehydration. Taking the thread and turning it into something that every other god damn thread becomes is retarded. Somethings should be above that, and when there's a giant post on the forums about babies starving to death I'll be equally upset about it as I am here.

But thankfully, assholes like you and Araysar will still be around to remind us all that some people are called human beings only because their genus and species says so, and not because of anything that morally indicates them as such.

And we will always have moralizing, hand wringing crones like you coming by to write 20 line posts completely devoid of any meaning other than "wah wah".

Oh what happened was bad? We had no idea.

Gavinmad · Dec 14, 2012

tad10_sl said:
Perhaps I'm comforted by the fact that I'm more religious now than I was on 9/11. I think the kid who did this will rot in Hell for eternity and the kids will get to Heaven. Not a lot of consolation for the Parents now, but some, in time.

Too bad your mysticism is all bullshit and there is no such thing as an afterlife.

LadyVex_sl · Dec 14, 2012

I get the jaded part, but a lot of the terrible shootings have often been about someone getting back at their peers. Not ALWAYS obviously; I can't blanket statement that, but that's been a general theme.

This was an adult, who for some ungodly reason took his anger out on babies.

Be jaded all you want, be foh all you want, that's what makes the forum what it is. This isn't some big awakening to anything, and there's no need to start crying that children die every day (because while true, it has nothing to do with this) but the least, the very least you could do, is not make it some thing where people try to out troll each other.

For fucks sake.

tad10 · Dec 14, 2012

Gavinrad_sl said:
Too bad your mysticism is all bullshit and there is no such thing as an afterlife.

I'm the big winner if I'm right, and I won't know if I'm wrong. Seems like a good bet to me.

Araysar · Dec 15, 2012

tad10_sl said:
I'm the big winner if I'm right, and I won't know if I'm wrong. Seems like a good bet to me.

If your current record is indicative of anything is that you still be a loser, even in the afterlife (which doesnt exist)

tad10 · Dec 15, 2012

Araysar_sl said:
If your current record is indicative of anything is that you still be a loser, even in the afterlife (which doesnt exist)

Nice, going for the direct attack. You both may piss on religon but that doesn't in any way diminish the power it has to help people in a time of need or pain.

I pity both of you, it's going to be lonely when you're both facing death; as you will eventually.

Anomander Rake · Dec 15, 2012

Sounds like you two need to go wrestle it out somewhere, have a smoke, and quit shitting up this thread. But seriously, there is some latent homosexual tension going on in hurr.

Gavinmad · Dec 15, 2012

LadyVex_sl said:
I get the jaded part, but a lot of the terrible shootings have often been about someone getting back at their peers. Not ALWAYS obviously; I can't blanket statement that, but that's been a general theme.

This was an adult, who for some ungodly reason took his anger out on babies.

Be jaded all you want, be foh all you want, that's what makes the forum what it is. This isn't some big awakening to anything, and there's no need to start crying that children die every day (because while true, it has nothing to do with this) but the least, the very least you could do, is not make it some thing where people try to out troll each other.

For fucks sake.

Children die every day, and it has everything to do with this. You weeping vaginas couldn't give less of a shit about babies starving to death in third world countries by the hundreds, but oh god when 20 die in America STOP THE FUCKING COUNTRY THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED TRAGEDY.

Zindan · Dec 15, 2012

imready2go_sl said:
As a parent of two young children, including one in kindergarten, I'm horrified, frightened, saddened, and furious ... all at the same time.

As has been noted, this isn't just about guns. This is about EVIL. How did we as a society become capable of so much fucking evil?

How does any man, even one with mental issues, come to the conclusion in his mind that, "Hey, I'm pissed at my family so I think I'll go kill a room full of babies".

How the fuck did we become so evil?

The evil ones get away with it, or keep themselves alive to revel in all the attention. The ones who off themselves are insane.

Araysar · Dec 15, 2012

tad10_sl said:
Nice, going for the direct attack. You both may piss on religon but that doesn't in any way diminish the power it has to help people in a time of need or pain.

I pity both of you, it's going to be lonely when you're both facing death; as you will eventually.

If god loved you so much, why did he make you so fucking dumb?

Or better yet, why did he allow those 20 children get killed?

All part of god's plan, right? Isn't that how you rationalize all of this?

LadyVex_sl · Dec 15, 2012

I had another sentence typed out, but decided against it. I was sad that people were coming here with posts like yours, and like mine was going to be so I won't.

It doesn't detract from the sadness just because there are other tragedies, nor is it impossible to feel terrible about other children dying elsewhere.

But this is this topic, and the other is for another time.

My heart goes out to anyone affected by this event.

Gavinmad · Dec 15, 2012

LadyVex_sl said:
My heart goes out to anyone affected by this event.

But not your wallet, or anything that would actually inconvenience you in any way.

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