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Ok fam need some recommendations. I have the Nvidia shield pro and the 20tb drive. I reformatted the 20tb drive as ex_fat. What documentation I can find for the shield (not sure it's current as it shows a different remote entirely and a game controller) says I can mount the 20tb drive as internal storage and the shield will encrypt it. I assume that means if I unplug it and move it to another PC it will not be able to read/write. I want to be able to put the shield in my living room with the drive also in the living room attached to the shield and be able to read/write (add movies / shows) via my hard wire network. Will that work with the drive just mounted or do I need to format it as internal storage? I'm going to faff about with it tomorrow, tonight is for video games/ football.
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You didn't say specifically, but you said it was an Elements drive up above; isn't that the one with network connectivity? If so, a switch solves all of your problems.

If it is USB only, then I have no idea. I've never heard about the encrypting thing so that's a new one for me. It has been a long time since I dealt with fat32, but doesn't it have a file size limit? That's going to be an issue unless all you ever download are xvid or x265 versions of movies. Like I said, nothing of mine is formatted fat32, but it is all network attached, so if you have that option I would take it instead of direct connect. Any speed difference likely won't be noticeable. Hell, I'm not even sure the latest Shield has the highest level of USB, it has been so long. Wish they would make a new one, I'd buy it the day it released, even though my old one works great.
 
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I found a video last night and I'm trying it shortly. It was specifically to set up the shield as a NAS. Not sure why you are saying fat32, I formatted the WD drive as ex_fat, it let me use the entire drive space. Anyhow will report.
 
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I found a video last night and I'm trying it shortly. It was specifically to set up the shield as a NAS. Not sure why you are saying fat32, I formatted the WD drive as ex_fat, it let me use the entire drive space. Anyhow will report.
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Oh, because I'm dumb and remembered fat32 from back in the day and totally read it that way every time. I honestly don't even know the difference.
 
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Well setting up the shield is as easy as flipping a few digital switches, but now I cannot get my fucking network to let me log into the remote HDD. Unfortunately, I didn't sleep at all last night (thanks body) and about the time I got it all set up and realized it would not let me connect, I passed out. Just woke up. Now I want to see Tyson hopefully destroy that punk ass kid. This looks like a tomorrow problem.
 
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Got it all to work this morning! Backup up old HDD to new HDD over network and this is going to take a while. Took a run at setting up my Harmony remote to work with the shield. Works fine except it keeps turning off the Shield, which makes it impossible to use as a NAS if it's off. Wife came home before I got the bugs out so it's a next week while she's at work thing.
And it's fast!
 
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So I have a synology ds1618+ that’s been going strong for maybe over 6 years. It’s part of my data backup plan - all important local data goes to it and then from NAS it goes to backblaze.

I’m wondering if I should consider replacing it due to age just as a proactive measure against failure? Also wondering if there’s any advances in synology newer products that would make it worth it. Thoughts?

Also does anyone know some good software for finding duplicate files? I have several laptops that have been backed up to my NAS and I’d like to consolidate duplicate files.
 
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I'm planning to get a new 4 bay to run as a media server and play 1080p mkvs direct to my TV via HDMI (amongst other simple things like storing all of my photos, doing computer backups etc). If I use the product selectors it wants me to spend like $2k on the high end media models but according to the plex compatibility sheet it looks like more entry level models like a qnap TS-464 should do the job fine. Are these lower end models likely to have issues with H265?
 
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If you're only serving video to yourself, and at 1080p- you're hardware requirements are almost certainly covered. Modern cpu's will have x264/5 hardware playback support. I think most people in thread are serving videos over the network as opposed to a direct hdmi connection.- but a single 1080 video playback at a time is pretty easy to handle for just about anything.
 
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Sadly not out yet but soon as it is I'm getting one of these bad boys and stuffing it full of HDD's and one of the open source NAS OS's.

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So finally built my new NAS using truenas scale. Took me a bit to figure out permissions for datasets for my docker images but I have sonaar, radarr, nzbget, nzbhydra2 and mariadb running without issues. It's been fairly easy to set up once I learned how they named things. One of the issues I ran into was trying to use an smb shares for the config folders for my containers and I just had to set the config folders to apps when I was creating the dataset for the permissions to work correctly.

I currently have 4 12 tb drives just stripped together for my movies and TV shows. I figured if I lose that I can always download them again so no reason to raid them together.

My app/config drive is two m.2 1tb drives mirrored for redundancy and I also have another 3 12 tb drives using vdev raid for important stuff like photos and documents.

So far I'm happy with it. Questioning if should have a GPU for Plex transcoding but from what I've read the i5 processor should be more than enough for that.
 
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Arative said:
So finally built my new NAS using truenas scale. Took me a bit to figure out permissions for datasets for my docker images but I have sonaar, radarr, nzbget, nzbhydra2 and mariadb running without issues. It's been fairly easy to set up once I learned how they named things. One of the issues I ran into was trying to use an smb shares for the config folders for my containers and I just had to set the config folders to apps when I was creating the dataset for the permissions to work correctly.

I currently have 4 12 tb drives just stripped together for my movies and TV shows. I figured if I lose that I can always download them again so no reason to raid them together.

My app/config drive is two m.2 1tb drives mirrored for redundancy and I also have another 3 12 tb drives using vdev raid for important stuff like photos and documents.

So far I'm happy with it. Questioning if should have a GPU for Plex transcoding but from what I've read the i5 processor should be more than enough for that.
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What did that cost you all in? My Shield + WD HDD wanna be NAS 'works' but you can only have one person using it at a time or it stutters/locks up. Wife gave me the go ahead to put together a 'real' one. Gotta love a woman that encourages your addiction/hobby!
 
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Kajiimagi said:
What did that cost you all in? My Shield + WD HDD wanna be NAS 'works' but you can only have one person using it at a time or it stutters/locks up. Wife gave me the go ahead to put together a 'real' one. Gotta love a woman that encourages your addiction/hobby!
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All in was around $2300. Way over kill really but I got a nice Xmas bonus and my wife said go for it. The hard drives were most of it, WD red drivers were $1600. The striped dataset is 43 TB, which is more than I'll ever use I think. When I copy all the movies and TV shows from my old nas, that's only 12 TB. I got pretty cheap m2 drives, $120 for two 1TB for data and 1 128 GB for the OS

I got an core i5 12000 that has integrated graphics from what I've been reading that will be more than enough to transcode one or two streams in Plex which is really all I have going most times. The motherboard is an asrock z790. I only have 32gb of ram in it. May upgrade that to 64gb but not sure I need too.
 
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All in was around $2300. Way over kill really but I got a nice Xmas bonus and my wife said go for it. The hard drives were most of it, WD red drivers were $1600. The striped dataset is 43 TB, which is more than I'll ever use I think. When I copy all the movies and TV shows from my old nas, that's only 12 TB. I got pretty cheap m2 drives, $120 for two 1TB for data and 1 128 GB for the OS

I got an core i5 12000 that has integrated graphics from what I've been reading that will be more than enough to transcode one or two streams in Plex which is really all I have going most times. The motherboard is an asrock z790. I only have 32gb of ram in it. May upgrade that to 64gb but not sure I need too.
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It would help if you would use the proper terms, so we can actually comment properly. I'm a holdout on the bsd based truenas, but the storage layer is basically the same nowadays. I only briefly looked around at the scale version, so i don't recall what the raid options were but a jbod stripe seems out of character.

If you're gonna run a zfs oriented system- you should run that. it looks like you have 7 12tb drives? I'd probably suggest putting them all together in a z2 pool. Or add a second 3 drive z1 vdev to your original one? Though shuffling data around is a pain. Zfs send|recv ftw.

32g of ram is probably fine. That's what i have currently, i'd love to be able to stuff a 4k movie into arc, but given the other things i'm running i'd need 128G for that to be feasible.

Why are you transcoding anything locally?
 
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Arative said:
So far I'm happy with it. Questioning if should have a GPU for Plex transcoding but from what I've read the i5 processor should be more than enough for that.
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I have a Pentium G2030 in mine with 8 GB RAM (10 year old build) and it works fine for transcoding.


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I currently have 4 12 tb drives just stripped together for my movies and TV shows. I figured if I lose that I can always download them again so no reason to raid them together.
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jbod stripe seems out of character.
If you're gonna run a zfs oriented system- you should run that. it looks like you have 7 12tb drives? I'd probably suggest putting them all together in a z2 pool. Or add a second 3 drive z1 vdev to your original one?
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The build is committed already, but yeah, I'd have gone for more, cheaper drives and done RAIDZ2. If you have large drives and one fails, the stats on a rebuild inducing data loss on a second drive are shockingly high (like 70%+).
 
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bolok said:
It would help if you would use the proper terms, so we can actually comment properly. I'm a holdout on the bsd based truenas, but the storage layer is basically the same nowadays. I only briefly looked around at the scale version, so i don't recall what the raid options were but a jbod stripe seems out of character.

If you're gonna run a zfs oriented system- you should run that. it looks like you have 7 12tb drives? I'd probably suggest putting them all together in a z2 pool. Or add a second 3 drive z1 vdev to your original one? Though shuffling data around is a pain. Zfs send|recv ftw.

32g of ram is probably fine. That's what i have currently, i'd love to be able to stuff a 4k movie into arc, but given the other things i'm running i'd need 128G for that to be feasible.

Why are you transcoding anything locally?
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I might just create a z2 pool. Probably would be better to have redundancy than not have it.
I'm not transcoding anything locally. I have a plex server set up for family that they use.
 
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Captain Suave said:
I have a Pentium G2030 in mine with 8 GB RAM (10 year old build) and it works fine for transcoding.






The build is committed already, but yeah, I'd have gone for more, cheaper drives and done RAIDZ2. If you have large drives and one fails, the stats on a rebuild inducing data loss on a second drive are shockingly high (like 70%+).
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One of the reasons I went with the Western digital red drives is that I have 4 8 TB red drives in my current NAS that are coming up on 10 years old and still running strong so I figured I'd keep with those drives since I've had good luck with them.

Maybe I just had really good luck with them
 
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Arative said:
All in was around $2300. Way over kill really but I got a nice Xmas bonus and my wife said go for it. The hard drives were most of it, WD red drivers were $1600. The striped dataset is 43 TB, which is more than I'll ever use I think. When I copy all the movies and TV shows from my old nas, that's only 12 TB. I got pretty cheap m2 drives, $120 for two 1TB for data and 1 128 GB for the OS

I got an core i5 12000 that has integrated graphics from what I've been reading that will be more than enough to transcode one or two streams in Plex which is really all I have going most times. The motherboard is an asrock z790. I only have 32gb of ram in it. May upgrade that to 64gb but not sure I need too.
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What sort of case allowed all those HDDs?
 
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Kajiimagi said:
What sort of case allowed all those HDDs?
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I have an old full tower case from years ago that I used for a home server before I got my qnap nas. It has 10 3.5 inch drive bays and 4 5.4 inch drive bays for cd/DVD players and even has a built in floppy drive.
 
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I currently have 4 12 tb drives just stripped together for my movies and TV shows. I figured if I lose that I can always download them again so no reason to raid them together.
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I mean, the reasoning is sound, but still - oof. That's like 'I keep my wineglasses in a duffel bag because if they break I can just buy more'.

Why striped ? Surely you aren't concerned about read performance for media ?
 
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