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So, you ban him AND fine him 2.5 million? Here's the thing, he didn't do anything illegal so good luck seeing that 2.5 million.
Doesn't matter. There's literally decades of case law in sports now that he has no chance of overturning. The courts have often taken the position that all of these private business owners voluntarily entered into an association and put agreements and contracts in writing on bylaws and regulations that they would live by. You don't get to run the courts to bail your ass out when the commissioner uses the powers the owners voluntarily granted him. There may actually be zero judges in the whole country that would be willing to throw out the concept of a sports league for this guy or any other single owner who is facing discipline from the entity he agreed to subject himself to.
 

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So, you ban him AND fine him 2.5 million? Here's the thing, he didn't do anything illegal so good luck seeing that 2.5 million.
The league will get it's money, you can bet on that. I'm guessing fines are like taxes where the league just takes your money, you're not really paying anything.
 

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He can sue for breach of contract and antitrust violations. Nothing his army of lawyers can do... lol, ya ok.
How is it a breach of contract? His contract says if 3/4 of owners vote him out, then he's out. His contract says if the commish wants to ban him, then he's banned. None of these things are outside his contract and all the owners have agreed to these rules.

And when you hear about the NBA/NFL/MLB/whatever "fining" someone, it just means it's withheld from their paychecks. You don't think they actually go down to a courthouse and pay someone behind a counter, do you?
 

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Glad he can't "hurt" the NBA further by running a successful team for almost four decades, but he still owns thousands of low rent tenements in predominantly black areas across the country.
Well he ran a financially successful team for over 30 years, but I'm not sure most, particularly the fans of the team, would have characterized his performance as successful. His teams have been horrendous on the court. They literally havethe worstrecord over that time out of all of the big 4 professional sports.

I'm not saying that financial success is meaningless. Hell it's necessary (outside of using other sources of income to support an expensive hobby), but fans of the game care more about the teams themselves performing well than the owner pulling down an additional 3% on his profit margin when defining teams as "successful".
 

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The reality is that, in these situations, it's more embarrassing to the NBA, and not worth it to keep him. When you have the players talking about boycotting, Civil Rights groups talking about picketing, and advertisers fleeing, that's not good for business. The NBA will find a way to get rid of him, even if they have to kick in some money to sweeten the deal.

I worked for a publicly traded company that did business with Marge Schott, and we did everything we could to sever ties (and our contract). You can't have your brand hurt by people like this. We had PI's following her, we tried to bribe our way of the contract, eventually, we got out. She got a combination of the carrot and the stick. We had pressure from Civil Rights groups, and in general, no one wants to do business with crotchety old bigots.
 

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Is anyone else skeptical that they will be able to convince 75% of the owners to kick this guy out? I mean, these are all businessmen/women we are talking about. They see that this guy is a past offender and that the only reason this is a thing is because the NBA was forced to move or be crucified in the court of public opinion. 75% of them siding with the commish on kicking him out means that they are saying they are OK with something like happening to them if the public turns on them with no sort of due process. I'm sure that they all know that it won't stop at bigoted comments either; it will be whatever the next hot button issue is that causes public outrage.
 

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Adam Silver would have never said he would seek removal if he didn't already have some assurances from a large portion of the owners that the votes are there. You can't throw something like that out and not deliver on it. It's one thing if litigation prevents it from happening, it's a whole different kettle of fish if it fails because the owners end up not having his back.
 

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Is anyone else skeptical that they will be able to convince 75% of the owners to kick this guy out? I mean, these are all businessmen/women we are talking about. They see that this guy is a past offender and that the only reason this is a thing is because the NBA was forced to move or be crucified in the court of public opinion. 75% of them siding with the commish on kicking him out means that they are saying they are OK with something like happening to them if the public turns on them with no sort of due process. I'm sure that they all know that it won't stop at bigoted comments either; it will be whatever the next hot button issue is that causes public outrage.
I had the same thought about how the owners, remembering the Gracchi brothers, would be afraid to eat one of their own but I think the key thing to remember here is, of course, money. He has instantly and massively devalued his team and in turn the entire league. There is absolutely no way he can stay. No way in hell. The owners will kick him off their island and pretend they never liked him in the first place. He killed himself so the owners don't even have to worry about it really. He will be gone and balance will be restored. He has every incentive to sell now anyway. His team is losing value by the minute and will never be worth as much as it is right now so long as he owns it. It's in his own best interests to sell now anyway regardless of what the owners say.

He's done. *edit* in the NBA.
 

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I had the same thought about how the owners, remembering the Gracchi brothers, would be afraid to eat one of their own but I think the key thing to remember here is, of course, money.He has instantly and massively devalued his team and in turn the entire league. There is absolutely no way he can stay. No way in hell. The owners will kick him off their island and pretend they never liked him in the first place. He killed himself so the owners don't even have to worry about it really. He will be gone and balance will be restored. He has every incentive to sell now anyway. His team is losing value by the minute and will never be worth as much as it is right now so long as he owns it. It's in his own best interests to sell now anyway regardless of what the owners say.

He's done.
Important part in bold. With the league's revenue sharing he is quite literally costing the other owners money with this scandal, no way they don't get 75 percent.
 

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Is anyone else skeptical that they will be able to convince 75% of the owners to kick this guy out? I mean, these are all businessmen/women we are talking about. They see that this guy is a past offender and that the only reason this is a thing is because the NBA was forced to move or be crucified in the court of public opinion. 75% of them siding with the commish on kicking him out means that they are saying they are OK with something like happening to them if the public turns on them with no sort of due process. I'm sure that they all know that it won't stop at bigoted comments either; it will be whatever the next hot button issue is that causes public outrage.
Unbelievable that you are sandy vag over this douchebag. No one should feel sorry for him. You can't represent a sports team and hold beliefs like that. He'll still make an unbelievable ROI on the team, that he bought for $14m and will get 700m. No one can take his money from him, but he can't represent the NBA.
 

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Unbelievable that you are sandy vag over this douchebag. No one should feel sorry for him. You can't represent a sports team and hold beliefs like that. He'll still make an unbelievable ROI on the team, that he bought for $14m and will get 700m. No one can take his money from him, but he can't represent the NBA.
Not one iota of my body feels sorry for this bigoted shit weasel. I just don't like the idea where public outrage forces decisions that may have unintended consequences down the road in the name of expediency.
 

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Who the hell would vote to keep the racist douchebag in the league? That's a huge pr nightmare that's going to hurt your bottom line significantly and probably affect other things like FA signings. Even Mark Cuban will end up voting him out even after saying he hates the precedent that would set.

Supposedly, the players were going to boycott the game tonight and they were working on getting all the players in all the games to boycott. That's a huge deal in the middle of the playoffs. Now, whether any of the owners really care about what he said or even if they believe it themselves, anything other than condemning him fully is a dumb move.
 

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In actual game news, Scotty Brooks still playing reactionary lineups against the Grizzly and its going to cost him the series. Why does this team unman him like no other?