NBA 2015 Playoffs Thread

Drakurii

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Harden will never win a championship being a number 1, he has good pieces around him. Huston lucked out when the Clippers gifted them the last series when they were down 3 to 1 and now they are one game from being swept. Harden is a good player I'm not saying he isn't but a superstar that will carry a franchise to a championship he is not...he should have fucking stayed in OKC.
 
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Drakurii_sl said:
Harden will never win a championship being a number 1, he has good pieces around him. Houston lucked out when the Clippers gifted them the last series when they were down 3 to 1 and now they are one game from being swept. Harden is a good player I'm not saying he isn't but a superstar that will carry a franchise to a championship he is not...he should have fucking stayed in OKC.
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Now you are talking crazy. For one he was traded, it wasn't his choice to be traded to the Rockets... it was the front office of the Thunder. However, it was his choice to sign a max deal afterwards, and he is worth every penny.
 
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Was laughing so hard when Curry boxed out Howard, grabbed the rebound, then drew the foul on him. Like I said before the game, Warriors needed to take better care of the ball. They did, and that was the biggest reason why they jumped out to that huge early lead. The Rockets energy was awful though, feel sorry for their fans who had a right to expect much better after games 1 + 2.
 
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There were a lot of turnovers early in game 2 by the Warriors, but in the end they totaled 14 yesterday, so only 3 less than in game 2. I have not seen the match, but looking at the box score, when you have Harden shooting 4/21 from the field, along with Brewer at 5/19, Ariza at 4/12 or Terry at 2/11 (making Smith's 9/19 look good!) it means it was the coldest night of shooting for Houston or that the Warriors played incredible defense forcing the Rockets to take tough shot after tough shot after tough shot.
 
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Damn, I had high expectations for my fanduel lineups and Houston players. I really thought they were going to bring it. What a let down that game must have been to watch.
 
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Szlia_sl said:
There were a lot of turnovers early in game 2 by the Warriors, but in the end they totaled 14 yesterday, so only 3 less than in game 2. I have not seen the match, but looking at the box score, when you have Harden shooting 4/21 from the field, along with Brewer at 5/19, Ariza at 4/12 or Terry at 2/11 (making Smith's 9/19 look good!) it means it was the coldest night of shooting for Houston or that the Warriors played incredible defense forcing the Rockets to take tough shot after tough shot after tough shot.
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Almost all of those turnovers happened after the Warriors were already up 25. They only had one turnover in the entire first half.
 
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Yeah, the Warriors D was pretty incredible as well. They switched Barnes onto Harden for much of the game, which I think made it more difficult for Harden to drive and push off like he likes to do. On Drives Harden utilizes his strength to get into guys and create space, but that's more difficult to do against Barnes than Klay. Combine that with not leaving many 3-point shooters open, limiting Houston break points by limiting turnovers, and Houston just didn't have many easy ways to score.
 
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He's more talented, Jordan wasn't 6'8 265 with the best synthetic steroids money can buy. He's still not Jordan though =D
 
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Jordan is like Everquest. It doesn't matter how good any of the new players are they'll never have it like him.
 
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LeBron has a bit(just a bit, he's already one of the GOATS) more to go before I put him past Kobe imo. I think being as physically dominant as LeBron is hurts him. A 6'8", 260 pound guy should be dominant and I think the standards are higher because of it. Jordan and Kobe weren't bigger, so when they beat people it was "drive", "will to win", and "clutch."
 
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Urlithani_sl said:
LeBron has a bit(just a bit, he's already one of the GOATS) more to go before I put him past Kobe imo. I think being as physically dominant as LeBron is hurts him. A 6'8", 260 pound guy should be dominant and I think the standards are higher because of it. Jordan and Kobe weren't bigger, so when they beat people it was "drive", "will to win", and "clutch."
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You watched the game tonight and have presumably watched other games in the past, right?

I'm not sure how you could fail to see "drive" and "will to win".

As for clutch, I get that everyone has this preconceived notion that LeBron isn't clutch, but by objective criteria, he's right up there with anyone who has a decent sized sample.

If you just don't like LeBron for whatever reason, that's cool, but say that instead of acting like he's not meeting some reasonable expectations for greatness.
 
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Clutch is pretty hard to define. But when you talk about guys like Jordan and to a lesser extent Kobe they didn't disappear for whole games or fourth quarters like LeBron has in big game situations.
 
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LeBron is already lightyears past Kobe on the greatness scale. It's not even the same tier.
 
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