NBA 2016-17 Season Thread - Knicks in 6

Gaige

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I can have it both ways. It's a team sport in playoff series, especially against elite teams. As you saw last night two guys can't do it against four. If the Cavs had another MVP caliber talent to rely on in the 4Q it changes everything.

Hell I'd even say the 07 Spurs are better than anyone Jordan faced.

Almost everyone won games in the Finals against MJ, in fact I think every single series went six games except the Lakers series which went five.
 

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Stop comparing eras. It's really stupid.

Lebron ran into a buzzsaw. Anyone who holds these finals against him is just a homer. He's playing out of his mind and he's still coming up short, that's not an indictment on him, that's just factual evidence of how fucking good this GS team is.
 
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That probably means the caliber of the competition was better. Unlike today where it's defacto in the East and only the Spurs for competition in the West. Which is exactly what LeBron wanted. Congratulations, now take your medicine faggot.
 
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Gaige

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Better competition I'll agree with, should probably have that conversation with the beta KD who dislikes competition.

The Cavs had a plus-minus of plus-7 in the 46 minutes James played and were minus-12 in the two minutes he rested. He is averaging 32 points, 12.3 rebounds and 10.3 assists per game in the series, putting him on pace to become the first player in Finals history to average a triple-double

Fucking terrible ass LeBron right?
 

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I would say Jordan faced tougher opponents on the path to the finals and LeBron faced tougher final's opponents.
 
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Yes considering there is no competition in the East at all and hasn't been since LeBron built his super team. The Warriors are just much better. Like maybe all time great better.
 

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I would say Jordan faced tougher opponents on the path to the finals and LeBron faced tougher final's opponents.
I'm inclined to agree but let's not pretend the Spurs or Mavs were fucking juggernauts, and let's not downplay how good the Sonics, Jazz, or even Suns were when Jordan faced them.
 
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This thread has gone full Cutler. You never go full Cutler.
 
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Gaige

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I'm inclined to agree but let's not pretend the Spurs were fucking juggernauts, and let's not downplay how good the Sonics, Jazz, or even Suns were when Jordan faced them.

07 Spurs team was a dynasty, that was TD's 4th ring. The 14 Spurs team played freaking amazing. The Mavs I'll give you, they were terrible and got the Heat and LeBron at the right time.

Again, I listed those teams as good, and they were, but they were no where close to the 15, 16, 17 Warriors or that 07, 14 Spurs team. Which is 4 of LeBron's 5 losses right there. The Mav's loss will always be unexcusable, even to me.
 

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Better competition I'll agree with, should probably have that conversation with the beta KD who dislikes competition.

The Cavs had a plus-minus of plus-7 in the 46 minutes James played and were minus-12 in the two minutes he rested. He is averaging 32 points, 12.3 rebounds and 10.3 assists per game in the series, putting him on pace to become the first player in Finals history to average a triple-double

Fucking terrible ass LeBron right?

So when Lebron joins up with the 2nd best player in his conference its ok, when Durant does it he doesn't like competition. Got it. Lets not pretend Lebron wanted competition. He knew damn well that that team was going to make the finals every year, and he thought it'd be enough to win it all every year as well.

Plus-minus for a game means shit. Draymond had the highest +/- last night even though he didn't play particularly well. Durant had a +/- of 0 even though he was the difference in the game.

Lebron has been great in this series nobody is denying it. He's averaging a triple double, but what does that mean? Steph is damn near averaging a triple double, yet he hasn't even been the best player for his team in this series. Durant has been the best player of the series for either team, and Lebron's couple extra rebounds and assists don't change that.

KD
PTS: 34.0
REB: 10.0
AST: 6.0
FG: 56.1%
3FG: 52.4%
FT: 89.5%

Curry
PTS: 28.7
REB: 9.7
AST: 9.0
FG: 44.8%
3FG: 48.4%
FT: 100.0%
 
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Alex

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That move doesn't even make sense. Clippers have an even weaker bench. And the Lakers are more than a LeBron away from being good.
 

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Well Paul George may be on the Lakers by then, they have the #2 pick this year, plus a promising young nucleus.

But yeah I really don't see it happening either.
 

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If LeBron joins the Lakers him and Lorenzo Ball will just pass it back and forth to each other until they get a shot clock violation. The 2018 Lakers will set a new record for shot clock violations in a season.:p
 

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Lol sorry Lonzo, the fucking Dad's name gets said more than the Son's. Fucking ESPN, real sport's news my ass.
 
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Gaige

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So when Lebron joins up with the 2nd best player in his conference

Quit reading when you called KI the second best player in the East. Oh ya and when did he win his MVP award?

Maybe if Kyrie was a two way player I'd buy in, but no.

Paul George, Jimmy Butler, John Wall are all better than him and play both ways.
 
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