NBA 2017-2018 Season Thread

Chanur · May 16, 2018

Warriors playing like they don't want to be there except Durant.

Szlia · May 16, 2018

I guess the question is: Can the Rockets choke that lead? Strangest things have happened in playoff basketball.

Chanur · May 16, 2018

I really feel like winning tonight only has a bearing on whether Golden State sweeps or not. I don't think Houston has a chance to win the series.

Gaige · May 16, 2018

Pharazon2 said:
Lol @ "thanks to Paul Gasol" (Btw its Pau, not Paul.) You have to be truly retarded to think Gasol was a bigger part of those championships than Kobe. Which we already knew you were, but hey, thanks for confirming it pretty much every time you post.

Meaning if they don't get gifted that trade Kobe probably isn't a Laker.

yamikazo · May 16, 2018

Szlia said:
I guess the question is: Can the Rockets choke that lead? Strangest things have happened in playoff basketball.

I think this is probably about as good as Houston can expect things to go.

And yet it still feels like the Warriors have a 50% chance of winning.

Alex · May 16, 2018

I don't see Warriors shooting that poorly from three again. Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker won't combine for 50 points or whatever again either. Warriors will win both in Oakland and Houston might win Game 5.

Chanur · May 16, 2018

Rockets slaughtering the Warriors.

Szlia · May 16, 2018

I always find that dribbling for 18 sec and shoot a random 3 is a dumb way to maintain a lead even when there are just a few minutes remaining and you have a 20 points lead.

Gaige · May 16, 2018

Blitz said:
You using the "Heat weren't good since Shaq" bit is hilarious. That doesn't give justification for them constructing that team. Basketball is 5 starters. Hey lets take two of the absolute best players in the world and add a borderline Top 10 guy! That is a completely different squad, and one they threw together for obvious reasons. LeBron didn't magically go there to build up some team. You wording makes it seem like LeBron expected to go there and build a team and organization up.. They fully expected to walk into that season and win a title. "Not one, not two, not three..."

And that Miami "big 3" is the first completely player-driven scenario where a team like that was created. Nothing but Free Agency, no trades or anything (at least regarding LeBron & Bosh). At least the Celtics had to involve trades. So yeah, those fuckers get some blame in why the way the league is currently. Was always destined to happen, but they did it first. Congrats, you get some of the blame.

"He has never lost in the first round guys".

In generally, a super-shitty Eastern Conference. Congrats. Good accomplishment, but let's not act like that's some sensational feat.

Btw, I think LeBron is the best player in the world, and quite possibly the 2nd best ever. But damn, the nuthugging is almost religious at this point haha.

Technically Bosh and LeBron were sign and trades.

yamikazo · May 16, 2018

Alex said:
I don't see Warriors shooting that poorly from three again. Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker won't combine for 50 points or whatever again either. Warriors will win both in Oakland and Houston might win Game 5.

Name that player!

37 minutes, shot 3 for 11, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 8 points.

Klay

36 minutes, shot 7 for 9, 4 rebounds, 6 assists, 19 points.

Trevor Ariza

33 minutes, shot 8 for 15, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 27 points.

Eric Gordon

27 minutes, shot 2 for 4, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 points.

Andre Igoudala

36 minutes, shot 8 for 9, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 22 points.

PJ Tucker

37 minutes, shot 2 for 5, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 points.

Draymond

Steph shot 1 for 8 from 3.

This is just the type of game that Houston needed. Maybe they'll get their swagger and the series will be competitive, but I still find it easier to believe this series ends in five games.

Kaines · May 16, 2018

Well it's not an NBA playoff series until one game is completely taken over by the refs. Looks like Game 2 was it this series.

zzeris · May 17, 2018

Was looking at ESPN today and they reminded me of sports highlights on May 17 in the past. I had to share with my buddies here.

Itlan · May 17, 2018

Chanur said:
Yes KD went to a team that was developed. LeBron came and picked who he wanted to play with him. What is your point?

Kobe was a bit of a twat and I never said he was a better person than LeBron but he has certainly gotten to the top of the mountain more often. So uh..thanks for the input and stuff.

Like I said, I really don't care Durant went. But they're not the same thing.

As for Kobe, my point is he called out his organization for not doing what they should've done in surrounding him with reliable talent to compete for a championship. Lebron simply left an organization who never provided him anyone better than Mo Williams. The only reason Kobe remained on the Lakers is because they refused to trade him and eventually got him the talent he so desperately pleaded for (Pau, Odom, Bynum). Who did more with less, LeBron or Kobe? Cause I'm pretty sure LeBron has dragged multiple teams who didn't belong in the finals to the finals.

You're just whitewashing history and trying to diminish LeBron because he left Cleveland. I'm just calling you on your bullshit. And before you even say it, wah wah wah eastern conference, yeah I know.

Chanur · May 17, 2018

Itlan said:
Like I said, I really don't care Durant went. But they're not the same thing.

As for Kobe, my point is he called out his organization for not doing what they should've done in surrounding him with reliable talent to compete for a championship. Lebron simply left an organization who never provided him anyone better than Mo Williams. The only reason Kobe remained on the Lakers is because they refused to trade him and eventually got him the talent he so desperately pleaded for (Pau, Odom, Bynum). Who did more with less, LeBron or Kobe? Cause I'm pretty sure LeBron has dragged multiple teams who didn't belong in the finals to the finals.

You're just whitewashing history and trying to diminish LeBron because he left Cleveland. I'm just calling you on your bullshit. And before you even say it, wah wah wah eastern conference, yeah I know.

Its easier to bounce from one good team to another. Its not as easy to win repeated championships with the same team.

As for whitewashing I dont care that LeBron left and your entire argument about Kobe basically comes down to what if. The fact is he won 5 championships on the same team which is harder.

If you want to talk about the land of make believe and role play where Kobe leaves and LeBron is the greatest we can.

Ambiturner · May 17, 2018

Blitz said:
You using the "Heat weren't good since Shaq" bit is hilarious. That doesn't give justification for them constructing that team. Basketball is 5 starters. Hey lets take two of the absolute best players in the world and add a borderline Top 10 guy! That is a completely different squad, and one they threw together for obvious reasons. LeBron didn't magically go there to build up some team. You wording makes it seem like LeBron expected to go there and build a team and organization up.. They fully expected to walk into that season and win a title. "Not one, not two, not three..."

And that Miami "big 3" is the first completely player-driven scenario where a team like that was created. Nothing but Free Agency, no trades or anything (at least regarding LeBron & Bosh). At least the Celtics had to involve trades. So yeah, those fuckers get some blame in why the way the league is currently. Was always destined to happen, but they did it first. Congrats, you get some of the blame.

"He has never lost in the first round guys".

In generally, a super-shitty Eastern Conference. Congrats. Good accomplishment, but let's not act like that's some sensational feat.

Btw, I think LeBron is the best player in the world, and quite possibly the 2nd best ever. But damn, the nuthugging is almost religious at this point haha.

You're forgetting LeBron went to Wade's team, proving he was beta to not even the top shooting guard at the time

Gaige · May 17, 2018

Chanur said:
Its easier to bounce from one good team to another. Its not as easy to win repeated championships with the same team.

As for whitewashing I dont care that LeBron left and your entire argument about Kobe basically comes down to what if. The fact is he won 5 championships on the same team which is harder.

If you want to talk about the land of make believe and role play where Kobe leaves and LeBron is the greatest we can.

Bill Russell won 11 on the same team. GOAT by your standards.

Blitz · May 17, 2018

Merrith said:
Actually, there was a trade with LeBron going to the Heat. He did a sign and trade from Cavs to Heat so the Cavs could get some draft picks and trade exemption compensation. Of course, it was for picks 2 years down the road from when the trade happened, but they did at least get some compensation for him. It just seemed like they wanted a little window first without giving anything up.

Gaige said:
Technically Bosh and LeBron were sign and trades.

Post-Free Agency decision trades, they were going regardless. Not quite the same, but duly noted.

Itlan · May 18, 2018

Chanur said:
Its easier to bounce from one good team to another. Its not as easy to win repeated championships with the same team.

As for whitewashing I dont care that LeBron left and your entire argument about Kobe basically comes down to what if. The fact is he won 5 championships on the same team which is harder.

If you want to talk about the land of make believe and role play where Kobe leaves and LeBron is the greatest we can.

Except that's not really true, as most teams who have won a chip over the last 30 years went on to win multiple titles. Even if we ignore the 80s Celtics/Lakers/Pistons dominance, you get Bulls, Rockets, Spurs, Lakers, Heat, Warriors. The only non-dynastic teams (one-and-done let's say) were the 04 Pistons, 06 Heat, 08 Celtics, and 11 Mavericks, with the Heat and Celtics both having major superstars join an already established superstar to win a title. So if anything, it's easier to win multiple championships with the same core team than to move from one team and win again, wouldn't you say? The only other superstar that immediately comes to mind is Shaq winning with the Heat in 06, but I could be wrong here.

And you're completely missing the point regarding Kobe. But that's fine.

Kaines · May 18, 2018

Itlan said:
Except that's not really true, as most teams who have won a chip over the last 30 years went on to win multiple titles. Even if we ignore the 80s Celtics/Lakers/Pistons dominance, you get Bulls, Rockets, Spurs, Lakers, Heat, Warriors. The only non-dynastic teams (one-and-done let's say) were the 04 Pistons, 06 Heat, 08 Celtics, and 11 Mavericks, with the Heat and Celtics both having major superstars join an already established superstar to win a title. So if anything, it's easier to win multiple championships with the same core team than to move from one team and win again, wouldn't you say? The only other superstar that immediately comes to mind is Shaq winning with the Heat in 06, but I could be wrong here.

And you're completely missing the point regarding Kobe. But that's fine.

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Wilt Chamberlain. Sixers and Lakers.

Chanur · May 18, 2018

You missed my poiny about Kobe. He won more chips.

LeBron clearly disagrees with you that its easier to win on the same team or he would not have moved so much.

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