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ronne

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That seems like it'll lose to caster boxes, a group of 6 SKs for ~6k damage ain't gonna cut it when their dps is like 1/5th of a mage/wizard otherwise.
 

Swagdaddy

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I cant believe people are worried about mages, if you have ever played a live TLP server you should know it's boxed shadowknights you need to be concerned about
 

Frenzic

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Daybreak Customer Service just posted raid rules - quoted below.

"Its going to be a DPS race/war. Highest DPS wins."

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EDIT: Added more from another reply from DBG CS

""So, KSing is now a thing of the past, or is this just in reference to named or raid mobs?"

DPS wins in all situations.
LOL too funny. After all this talk about Daybreak having something special in mind for TL. All bullshit as usual. Let the Wild Wild West be free!
 

Swagdaddy

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LOL too funny. After all this talk about Daybreak having something special in mind for TL. All bullshit as usual. Let the Wild Wild West be free!
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pharmakos

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don't forget about the rampant uncontrolled RMT on TLP servers

boxing 6 accounts can actually end up being a profit pretty easily, even despite paying for 6 sub fees.
 

Swagdaddy

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Yes very profitable, on Fippy there was a guy who would clear hate on a timer with 5 boxed toons (Considering the fact that due to live damage tables certain classes hit npcs incredibly hard) while gearing and rotating the 6th toon to sell on various sites. Was near impossible to get hate gear after the first week or two.
 

porkchop sandwiches

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Yes very profitable, on Fippy there was a guy who would clear hate on a timer with 5 boxed toons (Considering the fact that due to live damage tables certain classes hit npcs incredibly hard) while gearing and rotating the 6th toon to sell on various sites. Was near impossible to get hate gear after the first week or two.
Can't someone just train the 6 boxers and fuck up their game?
 

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Yes very profitable, on Fippy there was a guy who would clear hate on a timer with 5 boxed toons (Considering the fact that due to live damage tables certain classes hit npcs incredibly hard) while gearing and rotating the 6th toon to sell on various sites. Was near impossible to get hate gear after the first week or two.
Weird. Hate was a free for all on Vulak.
 

Swagdaddy

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it was for a week on fippy, dem PoP era shadowknight swords (never got removed either) off the trash mobs were dank
 

Vaclav

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Just betabuff an Sk and try it out. I think it's still stupid op.
SK is around 3k damage HT but there's a delay before another HT can hit now.

(Ah I guess even lower than I remembered - but the delay should still be in, that they added mid Fippy, no?)
 

Vaclav

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LOL too funny. After all this talk about Daybreak having something special in mind for TL. All bullshit as usual. Let the Wild Wild West be free!
There's nothing special in mind for TL - just TL's plans contradict what they're watching for - even with that "announcement" (which is a little weird coming from the newest hire in the CS department - Gamder started a month ago Friday - there's still a few CS with 2+ yrs under their belts). I could've taken the watching part out of context though, I did assume it meant CS intervention - but it could just be tweaking server level stuff or whatever too. Or considering to start doing intervention.

But as I said, the schadenfraeude is amusing either way.
 

Frenzic

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There's nothing special in mind for TL - just TL's plans contradict what they're watching for - even with that "announcement" (which is a little weird coming from the newest hire in the CS department - Gamder started a month ago Friday - there's still a few CS with 2+ yrs under their belts). I could've taken the watching part out of context though, I did assume it meant CS intervention - but it could just be tweaking server level stuff or whatever too. Or considering to start doing intervention.

But as I said, the schadenfraeude is amusing either way.
I think it's funny watching the reaction on the official forums. It's as if they all assume everyone is going to killsteal and train. We barely had any response to such things on Fippy and for the most part it was civil outside of the raid scene. If you try to compete for a raid target, expect it to get ugly, but if you're in a little group camp, chill out. I know I for one still care about my reputation as being a good helpful guy. I won't be Ksing plebs or acting like a douche just because a GM came out and said it was allowed.
 

Vaclav

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I think it's funny watching the reaction on the official forums. It's as if they all assume everyone is going to killsteal and train. We barely had any response to such things on Fippy and for the most part it was civil outside of the raid scene. If you try to compete for a raid target, expect it to get ugly, but if you're in a little group camp, chill out. I know I for one still care about my reputation as being a good helpful guy. I won't be Ksing plebs or acting like a douche just because a GM came out and said it was allowed.
No clue on Fippy, but on Vulak there was tons of times GMs intervened on such - many people got week long vacations over Mask of Deception and such KSing. I can't imagine our server being less congested was more toxic.

Were there a ton of places that happened? Not so much outside of those people that freak out over a handful of trash mobs here and there - but there definitely were a select few where it occurred. (Mostly Guk, frankly - FBSS is the other one that I can directly recall it occurring at)

And yea, the announcement will make things complete shit for raiding at all levels though with the whole memblur thing people are already nudging over there.

I'm quite curious if they'll "front page" the announcement though - seems very odd that it's contradictory to the RoC yet the RoC is still there as is. [Additionally it's rather odd that I've got a friend who just got a two day vacation for KSing/DPS racing a bot crew in some L105 zone a couple days ago on Live (that I couldn't get reversed mind you - it was the start of my call to the friend in question that informed me of what I relayed earlier - seems odd that if the policy was changed that he still got enforced upon, ya know? I think his suspension is off by Thurs though, so no use in calling since I'm not going to during my wife's minor procedure tomorrow [facet injection])]

And Frenz - since people were mentioning it earlier, doesn't HT only allow 1 to hit a mob for a timeframe now? Or is that only once the DoT gets added in the 51+ range?