Loser Araysar
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The Dalton deal makes sense because there's nothing better available, not because Dalton has proven himself a franchise QB. Ginger Flacco for sure.
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That is because good quarterbacks don't just grow on trees. Looking at Dalton's stats at face value he's an above average QB. Not a superstar but he's not making super star money, either. Then in a few years when contracts are refreshed he'll be making about what he deserves in the grand scheme.
Loser Araysar
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They said the same thing about Flacco. The next season after he signed his $120M contract he posted a 73 QB rating in 16 games.
I'll make you a season long title bet that Jay Cutler is gonna post a better QB rating than Andy Flacco.
I would if I knew more about how the offense will look, if Hue will make a good playcaller and what our backfield will look like. Cutler and Dalton both have around the same career QB rating from just glancing at the two's career season long ratings.
Chanur
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I like to bust Kaeperbro's balls but he has had far more playoff success and success in general than Dalton has. Comparing the two is kind of dumb. If he got more guaranteed money than Kaeperbro then grats to his agent because he fucked the Bengals a bit.
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I'm not saying it's a bad deal, and Dalton can sling the ball, that's just a mighty big 'if' right now. That's basically what the NFL contract situation has come to lately.
He's improved every year he's been in the league. There is no reason to think he'll just stop growing.
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I sincerely hope you are correct, sir. I'm always in favor of small market teams doing well.
Which means they'll get in to the playoffs at 8-8 and win the super bowl on a lucky catch against the Patriots.
The preseason doesn't mean shit. Didn't the Lions go 4-0 in the preseason leading up to their 0-16 regular season? Most of it is pretty vanilla play calling on both sides.
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All of these QBs make basically the same amount of money per year now, who do you want leading your team?
Matt Ryan(20 mil)
Joe Flacco(20 mil)
Colin Kaepernick(19 mil)
Andy Dalton(19 mil)
Jay Cutler(18 mil)
Tony Romo(18 mil)
Matt Stafford(17 mil)
And I'll even throw in Alex Smith (because he's probably getting a similar contract after this year)
Who do you want heading your team for the next half decade or so?
Matt Ryan(20 mil)
Joe Flacco(20 mil)
Colin Kaepernick(19 mil)
Andy Dalton(19 mil)
Jay Cutler(18 mil)
Tony Romo(18 mil)
Matt Stafford(17 mil)
And I'll even throw in Alex Smith (because he's probably getting a similar contract after this year)
Who do you want heading your team for the next half decade or so?
Gravy
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That's a whole bunch of meh, including A. Smith, but I'll be a homer and say him. That's awful.
This basically highlights the mediocrity of the QB position at the moment. I'd say all these guys are pretty much even. In a "take it right now" deal I'd say probably Romo but in terms of potential and ceiling it is between Kaep and Dalton imo. Maybe Ryan but I'm still not completely on his hype train.
Romo hands down. He gets bonus points for a mostly consistent and successful career under a GM that can never get fired no matter how much stupid shit goes on. "I was this close to drafting Johnny Manziel" when the Dallas defense was a dumpster fire for the ages last year is simply not a challenge some of those other guys face. I'd love to be a QB for an Ozzie Newsome team, Trent Baalke, etc.
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I don't have a problem with meh QBs getting a big contract. It should be laden with incentives and a small amount of guaranteed money. You want to make the same money as Bree's, Manning, and Brady? Then you better fucking play like them this year. Otherwise you get paid a lot less.