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Famm

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You have to live on a reservation with an injun family for a year working at the casino before you truly understand. Guido.
 
Sebudai

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The most offensive part of this situation is the Redskins fan's reluctance to change the name because, in their minds, there's this honored and noble Redskin legacy to uphold.

"Joe Gibbs is one of the best coaches of alll times hurrr durrrrr!"

Just fucking change the name. You are nobodies in this league. Just change it. How hard is that?
 
Joeboo

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The only people that have a problem with the name "redskins" are white folks who apparently always need to feel guilty about something

How Many Native Americans Think CBS DC

In the only recent poll to ask native people about the subject, 90 percent of respondents did not consider the term offensive

"Tommy Yazzie, superintendent of the Red Mesa school district on the Navajo Nation reservation, grew up when Navajo children were forced into boarding schools to disconnect them from their culture. Some were punished for speaking their native language. Today, he sees environmental issues as the biggest threat to his people.
The high school football team in his district is the Red Mesa Redskins.
"We just don't think that (name) is an issue," Yazzie said. "I don't see it as derogatory.""

Neither does Eunice Davidson, a Dakota Sioux who lives on the Spirit Lake reservation in North Dakota. "It more or less shows that they approve of our history," she said.
North Dakota was the scene of a similar controversy over the state university's Fighting Sioux nickname. It was decisively scrapped in a 2012 statewide vote - after the Spirit Lake reservation voted in 2010 to keep it.
Davidson said that if she could speak to Dan Snyder, the Washington team owner who has vowed never to change the name, "I would say I stand with him . we don't want our history to be forgotten."
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Not everything in the world has to be offensive to someone. It's like a large segment of the population validates their existence by being offended by something and spending all their effort making sure everyone knows how much they are offended. It's just dumb.
 
Sutekh

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joeboo_sl said:
The only people that have a problem with the name "redskins" are white folks who apparently always need to feel guilty about something

How Many Native Americans Think CBS DC



Not everything in the world has to be offensive to someone. It's like a large segment of the population validates their existence by being offended by something and spending all their effort making sure everyone knows how much they are offended. It's just dumb.
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I noticed the article from DC quoted only two proponents for not changing and none against it, interdasting.

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In 2004, the National Annenberg Election Survey asked 768 people who identified themselves as Indian whether they found the name "Washington Redskins" offensive. Almost 90 percent said it did not bother them.
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Whopping sample size there, so they polled roughly .01% of Native Americans and found out that it wasn't offensive, CASE CLOSED BOYS. Or maybe it was a survey performed in an area where those people weren't offended by it.

That article is basically dogshit and the fact that you linked that in favor of an argument that you're trying to make just goes to show how pathetic the argument even is. Especially since the latter part gives pretty good precedence as to why the name should be changed.

Shit even in the article they talk about the cultural diversity amongst Native Americans and how some are offended by it and some aren't.
 
moontayle

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They should be more offended that their owner is a raging money whore who likes to play real life fantasy football than at the name of the team.
 
BrutulTM

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It's hand-wringing white people for the most part. My cousin is married to an American Indian and while I haven't asked him about this topic specifically, I would bet $1000 he doesn't care. Even the phrase "native American" is mostly for uptight white people. I've never met an actual native that refers to themselves that way. They call themselves Indians.

Sporting News said that they should change the name to the Washington Americans and leave the logo the same, which isn't a horrible idea. It's at least somewhat fitting to have a team named that in the nation's capital.
 
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As a Redskins fan I don't give a shit about the name. Change it. Don't change it. Doesn't make a difference to me. Then again, I'm a Maryland Redskins fan. The fans on the Virginian side of the river are the ones proudly putting the Redskins logo next to their confederate flags.

I say just change them back to the Braves and be done with it.
 
Sutekh

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BrutulTM_sl said:
It's hand-wringing white people for the most part. My cousin is married to an American Indian and while I haven't asked him about this topic specifically, I would bet $1000 he doesn't care. Even the phrase "native American" is mostly for uptight white people. I've never met an actual native that refers to themselves that way. They call themselves Indians.

Sporting News said that they should change the name to the Washington Americans and leave the logo the same, which isn't a horrible idea. It's at least somewhat fitting to have a team named that in the nation's capital.
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It is pretty split to be fair, the chick that I was sleeping with in high school was native american, her dad was almost full blooded and he loved the redskins. But that doesn't mean it isn't offensive to some people and is just pointless not to change it. Shit, I think the Redskins could use a rebranding, new uniforms, logos, etc.
 
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Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) circulated the letter.
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Voice of the Native American community.
 
Foggy

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That is it, but the story behind of it is actually kind of funny.

Kids in his high school started referring to him as "Johnny Fucking Football" as a form of making fun of him, I guess he was the biggest douchebag around and most people hated his pompous, stuck-up attitude that he acted like he was gods gift to football, so everyone jokingly referred to him as JFF, and he hated it. Then when he gets to Texas A&M, some fans find out that he was called JFF in high school(not knowing why) and they start referring to him sincerely with that nickname. He hated it at first, but once he got famous he just ran with it.
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That isn't what happened. He was arrested as a freshman. He yelled at the officer, "Do you know who I am? I'm Johnny Fucking Football." And the nickname was born.
 
Sutekh

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McShrimp_sl said:
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Hey dipshit, believe it or not Senators are elected to be a representative of the American people. How the fuck do you know if they didn't receive word from their native american citizens?

God damn you're fucking stupid.
 
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I lived right next to a reservation. I think as long as there are special land and laws for Native Americans to separate them from society as a whole they can keep the Red Skins name. I would trade it though for the Native Americans to stop raping the land up here.
 
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