NFL 2015-2016 Season Thread

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Tenks_sl said:
Its funny because statistics say the Seahawks and Ravens each have about a 10% shot now if you take history at face value. But I can't imagine both of them not getting into the playoffs. This is why I love the NFL you don't know anything until the games are played. Unlike college where if everyone thinks you're good pre-season you can fumble your way through cupcakes and no-names and still be the best team in the country.
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This is why statistics without context are often useless. Tons of really bad teams go 0-2 and tons of really bad teams don't make the playoffs. That doesn't mean that some team that isn't really bad isn't going to make the playoffs if they start 0-2.
 
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BrutulTM_sl said:
This is why statistics without context are often useless. Tons of really bad teams go 0-2 and tons of really bad teams don't make the playoffs. That doesn't mean that some team that isn't really bad isn't going to make the playoffs if they start 0-2.
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I think that isn't a fair way of looking at the problem. There are so many teams where everyone thinks will be good at the start of the season then they shit the bed and everyone goes "Oh well they weren't actually good!" There is context here. If you start 0-2 you're bad except for 11% of teams which aren't actually bad.
 
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Arcaus_sl said:
Jets are doing well in the only stat that matters which is W's.

Blame anything you want on the front office. Rex is insufferable. His Dad was a cock who got lucky that Ray Lewis got off after he killed that dude. His brother is shit and he is shit. He writes a lot of checks with his mouth that his coaching can't cash. He is a blight on the league and a media whore.
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I'm completely impartial, I'm no fan of the Jets, Bills, Ravens, etc. I think Rex is a damn good coach. What other coach has taken a team out of the AFC East to do anything of note in the post-season during New England's reign of dominance for the past ~15 years? No one else, that's who. And Rex did it with a dumpster fire at QB(Sanchez)

He's not an elite coach, I wouldn't say he's one of the top 2 or 3 guys in the league, but he's damn good, better than most.
 
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Considering what he had to work with, I think Rex is a solid coach. His front office fucked him for the last few years. Say what you want about the NE game, but at least the Bills were competitive. I would rather have him than Coach Fatty McBrainfart, that's for sure. If he can carry Dirty Sanchez on his back to a couple of AFC Championship games, imagine what he could do with a real QB and some talent around him?

With the Jets, they are 2-0 in somewhat ugly fashion. But an ugly win is still a win. If that D keeps playing like that they may not need to score more than once or twice a game, but we will have a better idea once they square off against the Bills or Asterisks.
 
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Yeah, that defense against Sadford and the Frankenstein offense? That game is going to have 9 points scored all day.
 
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BrutulTM_sl said:
No shit. He looked so promising in preseason and he has looked like shit in the first two games.
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Yeah, a guy looked promising against a bunch of practice squad players, shocking..

Look, Hayne may be the greatest rugby player to have ever played (I don't care a flying fuck about Rugby), but those skills don't really translate to the NFL. Hayne doesn't even understand most of thefundamentalsof football for Christ's sake, because 99% of NFL players learned them in high school/college, while he took his first football snap at the age of 27. All because he thought playing Madden was really cool (not kidding).

The guy runs completely upright, has zero acceleration to gaps, doesn't follow blockers, doesn't/rarely makes cuts. He's just not very good. Fuck, the 49ers were using theirfourthstring RB against Shittsburgh, once Hyde went out. Him being brought to the NFL was done for one reason and one reason only: money. The NFL and the 49ers are seeing a huge increase in ratings and merchandise sales because the media is jerking this guy off at every step. He'll get his 1-4 touches a game (1 of which will likely be a punt return), so the media train can keep rolling, and then he'll ride the bench. It's a waste of a roster slot and a fucking farce.
 
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Philly front 7 is pretty good. They held up very well against a Dallas offense that grinds out the clock, and didn't start to falter until very late in the game. Chip just wasn't doing them any favors by staying with his quick pace offense for 3-1/2 quarters.

His gimmicky offense would work if he actually had someone who wasn't shit at QB. NE does the same quick pace offense and they fucking own most of the teams they play. But you have to know when to dial it back. Having your defense on the field for 40+ minutes is going to lose you games, I don't care how much you emphasize conditioning and super smoothie shakes.
 
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joeboo_sl said:
I'm completely impartial, I'm no fan of the Jets, Bills, Ravens, etc. I think Rex is a damn good coach. What other coach has taken a team out of the AFC East to do anything of note in the post-season during New England's reign of dominance for the past ~15 years? No one else, that's who. And Rex did it with a dumpster fire at QB(Sanchez)

He's not an elite coach, I wouldn't say he's one of the top 2 or 3 guys in the league, but he's damn good, better than most.
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I mean, the Jets went to the Play Offs 3 other times during that period and won the division once.
 
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Xevy_sl said:
We're getting him an O line next year. That's the only thing that matters, honestly. Give Luck time and he'll get the ball somewhere for yards. He just doesn't have any time right now and we keep picking up other people's linemen. We need some big, strong draftees that can keep him up. After that it'll be fine. Peyton only ever had 1 good RB and 2 great receivers and he did well in Indy.
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The Ben played with a terrible O-Line that would get better "next year" for the better part of a decade up until last season. Just don't hold you breath on this one.
 
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Rex Ryan is a shitty coach because he lost to the Patriots by 1 score or because his old team beat up on a shittier team? I'm not following the logic here
 
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moontayle_sl said:
Philly front 7 is pretty good. They held up very well against a Dallas offense that grinds out the clock, and didn't start to falter until very late in the game. Chip just wasn't doing them any favors by staying with his quick pace offense for 3-1/2 quarters.

His gimmicky offense would work if he actually had someone who wasn't shit at QB. NE does the same quick pace offense and they fucking own most of the teams they play. But you have to know when to dial it back. Having your defense on the field for 40+ minutes is going to lose you games, I don't care how much you emphasize conditioning and super smoothie shakes.
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The NE offense runs no huddle alot, which is about where the similarities end. The NE offense is incredibly complex with tons of plays that look the same pre-snap but then are different, the problem people are saying Philly has is the offense is so simple the defense has a really good idea of whats gonna happen pre-snap. The philly offense relies on trying to do a few things so well that people can't stop you even though they know whats coming, the NE offense is all built off game plan and scheme, so like polar opposites.
 
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Foggy_sl said:
Only took 2 weeks for Kirun to turn on the 49ers.
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Huh? Turn on the 49ers? Nice attempt at strawmanning, but I said back in preseason that I don't see Hayne's rugby skills translating to the NFL.

Kirun_sl said:
While he may be an amazing rugby player, a lot of the game doesn't directly translate to the NFL. The dude has looked excellent in the return game, but he's not evencloseto ready as an actually RB. He's not great at following blocks, doesn't make the proper cuts, etc. He still has a lot to learn.
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Interesting thing I heard about Demarco Murray: Last year, his average first contact was 2.8 yards past the of scrimmage. This year, it's behind the line of scrimmage. It's fun to mock his terrible numbers but I think that's a pretty good indicator that the line is a much bigger issue than Murray right now.
 
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