NFL 2020 Season: Gravy Edition!

"It was her turn."

But seriously, the lack of votes probably has everything to do with Wilson not getting them close to a ring since Lynch packed his bags and the fact that everyone who plays with him hates him. Also, his signature move of "toss it deep and wait for the flag" grates on a lot of people. Not saying the guy is not good and that team certainly has nothing without him, but MVP votes are a lot of times based on more than just what happens on the field. And to be fair, with Aaron Jones on our team, Rogers will likely (deservedly) not be on the discussion list for MVP this year himself. But I feel Rogers has always been the better passer and QB, without the monster defense Russel has had to back him up. (or Jesus evidently)

jooka said:

Baffles me how many "analysts" didn't have him in the top 10 this year.

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To be fair Rodgers said this is the first time in 15 years his arm has felt good coming into the season.

Gavinmad said:

Except he's consistently one of the most accurate deep ball passers every single year.

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He is just a hater because the Seahawks have shit on their dreams a couple times.

Izo said:

I do it US guided, always, to get as close to a specific nerve, never miss. This sounds like an elder orto / quack. Inflicting a ptx is n00b territory, especially on the thorax/neck. What does Synj think?

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I thought the same thing.

Synj said:

Using some pain meds/steroids to help alleviate rib pain which is never really a great idea, probably was free handing it and not using an ultrasound but who knows.

In case it's not obvious, the white things in the middle are a cross section of the ribs, this is generally what you would do for a thoracentesis (drain fluid from the pleural space). But if he was fucking around with the ribs higher up...doc stung himself.

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Izo said:

I do it US guided, always, to get as close to a specific nerve, never miss. This sounds like an elder orto / quack. Inflicting a ptx is n00b territory, especially on the thorax/neck. What does Synj think?

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And yeah, that doc is not the team doc anymore for sure lol.

I think the idea behind MVP is the guy who makes the most difference in if his team wins or loses. In the past when he had Lynch to lean on and that ridiculous defense, Wilson could not really make that claim as decisively. I think he can make a better argument for it now, especially with the Roidhawk Defense not playing up to prior standards. I think Rogers won't get the nod for the exact same reason, even if he sustains his current level of play, because he has a much better team around him this year than in the past. As much as Wilson is good, he frankly does not mean as much to his team as Mahomes or Jackson did the last two years. And if I am being honest, I think that we would still win games as well if Rogers goes down because he has a line and running back for the first time since the last time we lucked into a ring.

MVP is really more about the guy who puts the team on their back, which is why Wilson has been largely overlooked until now and Rogers got all that love a few years ago. And its just a fact of the NFL that you have more chances to show that trait when your defense is not up to par. My personal feeling is that Mahomes is the front runner this year, because clearly KC is in big trouble without him.