[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT

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You can say that about RotJ or even New Hope and you can make a credible argument. But Empire Strikes Back is all sorts of awesome.

The better troll is to attack New Hope. You can. It's not that hard to do, the movie is flawed like Jedi is flawed. But even people that aren't Star Wars nerds and don't really give a shit either way will easily admit that Empire Strikes Back is one of those all-time great kinds of movies.

It just is. It defined a decade.
Empire is the least enjoyable of the original three.

No troll.
 

Feanor

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I like the prequels. They should've been better, yes. They're mediocre, rather soulless blockbusters that pale in comparison to other scifi, yes, but I've never understood why people hate them so much. I think people forgot that Star Wars is and always was for kids. That and nerdrage is a helluva drug. Empire is definitely the best, though. No argument there.
 

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I like the prequels. They should've been better, yes. They're mediocre, rather soulless blockbusters that pale in comparison to other scifi, yes, but I've never understood why people hate them so much. I think people forgot that Star Wars is and always was for kids. That and nerdrage is a helluva drug. Empire is definitely the best, though. No argument there.
lol. you just answered your own question. they were mediocre (to say the least), soulless movies that paled in comparison to the original three. i think that pretty much sums up why everyone hated them so much.
 

Feanor

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Yeah... yeah. I know. sigh
I really wanted to like them, I did. But nowadays I can't help watching Revenge of the Sith and imagining Lucas saying to himself THIS IS DAAAARK. DAAARK
 

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but I've never understood why people hate them so much.
Midichlorians.
After this ,there was ton of shit which was raping in every possible way the SW saga.but when i saw those thingys inside the blood explaining what was the Force, that was it for me.
 

Caliane

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He is right though, Empire IS the least enjoyable(of the originals.). Being the best, and being the most fun, are not related. empire is definitely not the most fun. Its downright depressing multiple times.
Does it even have any "fuck yeah!" moments?

As to why the prequels are bad... yeah, that shit has been hammered to death.
Lucas sucks. has always sucked. he was the M. Night Shamal343fewg3an of the 80's. He made one or two good movies, somehow. And either let the success go to his head, or it was pure luck in the first place. then did an amazing job putting together the best and the brightest to form ILM.

Prequels are just a mess of cgi shit/overuse, poor acting, poor directing, poor editing, poor writing. A complete failure on pretty much every level.
They are even pretty terrible for overall fiction. Midiclorians as noted. And just in general, The Jedi order were apparently completely incompetent buffoons.
 

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I always hated the need to put in as many references to the old star wars as they seem to be able to. r2d2, c3po, baby boba, hell even sticking in chewbacca in that one scene for 10 seconds just to say "hey there's chewy!"
 

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There were no redeeming qualities about the prequels. On top of the fact that prequels in general are very hard to pull off since you know what happens.

But in the end there were two main issues. It was totally unbelievable how dumb every "good guy" was. And then the midoclorisuckyexplaination.
 

Gavinmad

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Meh. All of that shit pales in comparison to how stupid Anakin's switch to the dark side was.
 

Caliane

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Its taken 6 Seasons of "the Clone wars" to give adequate explanations and character growth to explain the heel turn, and general machinations. (even then its fairly forced at times.)
 

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Its taken 6 Seasons of "the Clone wars" to give adequate explanations and character growth to explain the heel turn, and general machinations. (even then its fairly forced at times.)
It had to be forced to set the tone of the original set up. Regardless, 6 seasons is a LOT of time to make up for a bad idea.
 

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I like the prequels. They should've been better, yes. They're mediocre, rather soulless blockbusters that pale in comparison to other scifi, yes, but I've never understood why people hate them so much. I think people forgot that Star Wars is and always was for kids. That and nerdrage is a helluva drug. Empire is definitely the best, though. No argument there.
Have you watched the Red Letter Media reviews of all three movies?
 

ohkcrlho

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Meh. All of that shit pales in comparison to how stupid Anakin's switch to the dark side was.
anakin - "you killed windu"
emperor (don't know who the fuck is senator palpatine) - "join the dark side"
anakin - "hmmmmmm....ok!"

george lucas in a nutshell.
 

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As to why the prequels are bad... yeah, that shit has been hammered to death.
Lucas sucks. has always sucked. he was the M. Night Shamal343fewg3an of the 80's. He made one or two good movies, somehow. And either let the success go to his head, or it was pure luck in the first place. then did an amazing job putting together the best and the brightest to form ILM.
My theory is Lucas is the type of person who really thrives only when a fear of failure is their primary driving force. With A New Hope, studios were extremely reluctant to get behind the movie and still figured it was going to be a flop. Lucas knew he had to prove both his vision and himself as a filmmaker, and that motivation continued into the next two movies since Lucas needed to prove it wasn't a fluke and that he could deliver on a saga. When the prequels came along, Lucas had nearly two decades of people patting him on the back and calling him a genius. There was no risk because everyone knew the new Star Wars films would make a massive amount of money no matter what. And, unfortunately, given Lucas' massive success so early in his career, he's unlikely to ever be in a position again where he's pushed the same way.
 

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Or its like the Brad McQuaid thing, he surrounded himself with talented people and put them to work on his "vision". When left to recreate that success after he was given all the credit, he fell on his face.
 

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Or its like the Brad McQuaid thing, he surrounded himself with talented people and put them to work on his "vision". When left to recreate that success after he was given all the credit, he fell on his face.
Famm wins with the greatest analogy ever.