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What you really need to worry about is that we are quickly approaching a time where lots of money can be made by simply running computations. We're talking medication modelling, material science, simulations, AI etc. The previous results improve the next round and it just keeps going. The longer you run the computations and the more processing power you have the more you're going to make. Us petty consumers will be a rounding error to the kind of demand that's going to generate. It will be an insatiable market where selling to end users would always be at a loss.

At some point everything will vertically integrate and the chips will never leave the company that made them.
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What you really need to worry about is that we are quickly approaching a time where lots of money can be made by simply running computations. We're talking medication modelling, material science, simulations, AI etc. The previous results improve the next round and it just keeps going. The longer you run the computations and the more processing power you have the more you're going to make. Us petty consumers will be a rounding error to the kind of demand that's going to generate. It will be an insatiable market where selling to end users would always be at a loss.

At some point everything will vertically integrate and the chips will never leave the company that made them.
There's a lot of conjecture that can be made of that type of future.

I've noticed that the cell phone product cycle has slowed down as they've run out of obvious features to fit inside a black rectangle. I no longer need latest and greatest for my phone. In the world you're proposing, the latest and greatest might not available to the average end user but they also might not need it.
 

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There's a lot of conjecture that can be made of that type of future.

I've noticed that the cell phone product cycle has slowed down as they've run out of obvious features to fit inside a black rectangle. I no longer need latest and greatest for my phone. In the world you're proposing, the latest and greatest might not available to the average end user but they also might not need it.

Same with PCs really. Unless youre a bleeding edge gamer, you can now get by with a $300 laptop and surf the net and do excels and PP just fine for years.
 

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Same with PCs really. Unless youre a bleeding edge gamer, you can now get by with a $300 laptop and surf the net and do excels and PP just fine for years.
So what's slowing down the average consumer use cases to be this shit that was the same for 20 years? Like they wouldn't be able to get by if PP were in like 3D or AI was part of the equation, or any other idea that I can't think of that made that shit more resource-intensive?

I guess it's like displays, and how it was fine for years to do 1080p/60hz, and then all of a sudden higher display tech exploded and we all want faster refresh rates and higher and higher resolution. What was the catalyst for that? Why was 1080/60 all of a sudden no good? Will the same happen to the average consumer mundane tasks used on those shit box $300 laptops? Will we get to the point that a 3080 is required to run PowerPoint because there are some bitchin' presentations that come out?
 

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So what's slowing down the average consumer use cases to be this shit that was the same for 20 years? Like they wouldn't be able to get by if PP were in like 3D or AI was part of the equation, or any other idea that I can't think of that made that shit more resource-intensive?

I guess it's like displays, and how it was fine for years to do 1080p/60hz, and then all of a sudden higher display tech exploded and we all want faster refresh rates and higher and higher resolution. What was the catalyst for that? Why was 1080/60 all of a sudden no good? Will the same happen to the average consumer mundane tasks used on those shit box $300 laptops? Will we get to the point that a 3080 is required to run PowerPoint because there are some bitchin' presentations that come out?
Why was the horse replaced by the car? Horses got us around just fine.

Why were tubs replaced by washing machines? The tub washed my clothes just fine.

Welcome to technology. If something is faster, better, more efficient, etc. why would you not use it? The catalyst for monitors is because they look better, feel better, are smoother, you don't deal with all the screen tearing bullshit, better color, viewing angles, etc.
 

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Why was the horse replaced by the car? Horses got us around just fine.

Why were tubs replaced by washing machines? The tub washed my clothes just fine.

Welcome to technology. If something is faster, better, more efficient, etc. why would you not use it? The catalyst for
That’s why I moved on from my convection oven to a Air Fryer.
 
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I've noticed that the cell phone product cycle has slowed down as they've run out of obvious features to fit inside a black rectangle.
Oh dont worry, they will try their asses off.

Looking at you retarded "curved" screens in cellphones.
 
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That’s why I moved on from my convection oven to a Air Fryer.
Just tried making my own burritos on taco night, then throwing them into the airfryer for 10 minutes, and now I have a crispy fucking burrito, sort of like a chimichanga!!

Kirun Kirun oh I get it, and you're right. I was just rambling about why the average consumer task that works on a $300 laptop has been the same for a long time I feel, and the technology to do it has gotten cheaper as the technology has advanced and gotten better. However the same advances in business practice and ways of doing things hasn't changed that much to warrant needing more power. Just thought that was interesting and was rambling like I'm doing now, npnp.
 
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So what's slowing down the average consumer use cases to be this shit that was the same for 20 years? Like they wouldn't be able to get by if PP were in like 3D or AI was part of the equation, or any other idea that I can't think of that made that shit more resource-intensive?

I guess it's like displays, and how it was fine for years to do 1080p/60hz, and then all of a sudden higher display tech exploded and we all want faster refresh rates and higher and higher resolution. What was the catalyst for that? Why was 1080/60 all of a sudden no good? Will the same happen to the average consumer mundane tasks used on those shit box $300 laptops? Will we get to the point that a 3080 is required to run PowerPoint because there are some bitchin' presentations that come out?


Generally is referred to as software bloat and is the principle that successive generations of computer software increase in size and complexity, thereby offsetting the performance gains predicted by Moore's law.

Not to mention other factors like average users not maintaining the computer properly.
 

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Not sure of the exact year but the Batman games in particular were very demanding for onboard RAM to max features so they began scaling that up. Frame rates and 1440p+ naturally came along with it.

Ultrawide people are simply a weird subset.
 

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This was article written in like 2000


For the last 5 or 6 years Berkeley’s Space Sciences Laboratory has been running the SETI@home project. SETI stands for the Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence and the project is dedicated to searching for patterns that may be signs of intelligent life amongst the mostly random mass of radio signals that reach the Earth from space. Each member of the project offers some of their computer’s time to the cause. Membership is open to everyone with access to a computer and the internet. There are currently 2,822,404 members and they have clocked up 582,977 years of processing time.
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Oh dont worry, they will try their asses off.

Looking at you retarded "curved" screens in cellphones.
High quality, high durability folding screens would be revolutionary. Being able to fold your phone up to half the size would be a huge boon to a lot of people, but especially to young women with tiny pockets and no purses.
 

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High quality, high durability folding screens would be revolutionary. Being able to fold your phone up to half the size would be a huge boon to a lot of people, but especially to young women with tiny pockets and no purses.
Sure a well functioning seamless folding screen would be great but Im talking about dumbshit like the Note 8's "curved" screen. Not once in the 4 years ive used the thing have I ever encountered a use case where that curve was better than entirely flat screen.
 
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Just tried making my own burritos on taco night, then throwing them into the airfryer for 10 minutes, and now I have a crispy fucking burrito, sort of like a chimichanga!!
Damn that sounds epic
 

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I got a notice from EVGA that my queue has changed from a 3080 to a 3080 LHR. I forgot I even signed up for that queue. That was 8-9 months ago lol
 
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I got a notice from EVGA that my queue has changed from a 3080 to a 3080 LHR. I forgot I even signed up for that queue. That was 8-9 months ago lol
Same here. I figure they're discontinuing the non LHR version as Nvidia will use those for the CMD line.
 
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Not sure of the exact year but the Batman games in particular were very demanding for onboard RAM to max features so they began scaling that up. Frame rates and 1440p+ naturally came along with it.

Ultrawide people are simply a weird subset.

Negative, people still playing @ 1080p NOT in esports are the weirdos
 
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I got a notice from EVGA that my queue has changed from a 3080 to a 3080 LHR. I forgot I even signed up for that queue. That was 8-9 months ago lol

Same I queued for the 3080 back in like October, ended up getting a 3090 elsewhere in Feb.