Bubbles
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if so, that''ll be a fuck yeah moment for everyone (especially me) looking to build a new system
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NVidia GeForce RTX 30x0 cards
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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if so, that''ll be a fuck yeah moment for everyone (especially me) looking to build a new system
Mist
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I think we'd know that by now. Likely next gen, if it's even happening.
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rhinohelix
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I am currently on the fence about putting together my long-standing 9900k which has been in parts waiting for a video card for years (I just got a 3080 on a deal, see posts above) or I was thinking spending a few hundred bucks and getting a Zen 3 5800x/5900x and just selling the 9900k for dirt cheap because who the fuck knows what's going to happen in the next two months with suppliers and Taiwan. Now that we know Zen 4 is supposed to really launch, not paper launch on Sept 15th, and there will be a 300 dollarish 7700 part, I might just wait for that.
Lovelace and RDNA3 are supposed to blow these current gen cards out of the water; It doesn't surprise me at all that the 4070 would be equivalent to the 3090/3090 Ti, although I don't know where its going to come in price wise. nVidia has shareholders to feed and this time AMD is supposedly playing for keeps with RDNA3. I keep hearing about a tsunami of chinese miner cards coming west but Ebay prices remain stupid.
Lovelace and RDNA3 are supposed to blow these current gen cards out of the water; It doesn't surprise me at all that the 4070 would be equivalent to the 3090/3090 Ti, although I don't know where its going to come in price wise. nVidia has shareholders to feed and this time AMD is supposedly playing for keeps with RDNA3. I keep hearing about a tsunami of chinese miner cards coming west but Ebay prices remain stupid.
Mist
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Rumor on the street is that Nvidia will only launch one RTX 4000 SKU this year, and delay everything else to next year, because otherwise the AIB board partners would revolt. They sit on a lot of RTX 3000 stock thinking the crypto boom would go on forever.
Still, buying anything new until the new cards arrive would be pretty stupid.
Still, buying anything new until the new cards arrive would be pretty stupid.
Mist
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Which again supports the idea that the 40 series renders all previous cards obsolete.
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Lendarios
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Technically, they could release the 4090 in October and release the "smaller" ones month by month.
With rumors going around the block that AMD is launching RDNA 3 around November, and also only the big one (7900, and maybe 7800) this would make even more sense: If AMD beats them, then they'll scramble for a 4090 Ti, if not they'll try to keep prices at the high end up.
They'll try to go for the top end, as this is the lucrative part: consumers have been conditioned that over $1500 for a high end GPU is acceptable. Meanwhile, they can wait until the last gen cards are trickling down and keep prices on the lower end of the market down.
Mist
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Why?
It has its own RAM, for one. It has it's own cooling system, for two. It has its own power delivery and voltage regulation, for 3.
So it's basically a motherboard + RAM + a large massively parallel processor.
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Daidraco
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If you're still stuck in 2000, I guess? The newest cards might as well be their own PC within a PC.
I hope the 4k series decimates the 3k series like Mist is saying - simply because Im still marching to the tune that its good for games over all when the market is saturated with powerful video cards. I want to see a good 50%+ of* the 2k and 3k series on steam charts.
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Factor in a fat cooler, a board and gigabytes of expensive memory, and suddenly the pricing isn't that far off--at least for the medium range. Which due to Covid & Crypto is still fucking skewed, but the xx70 and 6700 cards will probably drop below $500 some time again.
Buying a top end graphics card however, is just paying more money now for performance you could've had a generation later.
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I'd like to point out that there is actually a CPU inside modern graphics cards, with its own OS. It does things like scheduling and power + fan management, which is why older Nvidia cards spin up their fans when in the BIOS (where a rudimentary version runs) until the graphics driver uploads a fat blob with the "real" OS onto the GPU.
When your screen blacks out (during driver updates, or when the GPU driver crashes), the graphics driver on the host system actually reboots the OS on the GPU. You can restart the graphics driver on WIndows 10 with Ctrl+Shift+Win+B.
Nvidia probably wanted to buy ARM to have a newer core for it, but after everyone went apeshit over them trying to buy the whole company they went with RISC-V instead.
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Current rumors say: 4070 with 300W power draw, at least on par with a 3080 on rasterization, but improved RT performance.