NVidia GeForce RTX 50x0 cards - 70% performance increase, but AI > you

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I have the 5080 but it's because I bought a whole system for $2799 so I thought it was a good deal. Upgrading from a 3700x 2070 Super to this and it is pretty fucking incredible to be honest. I checked my ROPs and have 112 as advertised. Albeit, I have never owned anything other than a 70 series card either.

270 > 570 > 770 > 1070 > 2070 Super and now a 5080. So obviously this is a much higher jump for me then normal.

Being able to HDMI into my home theater system is a huge win for me now with everything running so well in FPS with all bells and whistles.

But I know I am an outlier here with this particular generation. If I had a 4080/4090 I wouldn't be upgrading obviously.
 

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If you ignore all the marketing BS it's a fairly typical generation, ~15% uplift over the previous generation within the same tier. Prices suck but that's to be expected in the AI hype/trade war times.

Single generation upgrade within the same tier has historically never been worth it.
 
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Benches...

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Dumb question. Outside of a quiet profile in iCue software, is there anything you can do to make fans quieter? These fans ramping up sound like a damn jet plane. Never had this issue with fans before.
 

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Zotac has mountains of 5080's in stock on their store front... for $1400. Was half tempted to flip my 4090 and make a few hundred bucks into the 5080, but thought better of it.
 

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Utnayan

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Zotac has mountains of 5080's in stock on their store front... for $1400. Was half tempted to flip my 4090 and make a few hundred bucks into the 5080, but thought better of it.

Yeah 4090 still smokes the 5080.

 
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Have a Asus Prime 5080 in my Best Buy cart - just can’t convince myself it’s worth $1400 (with tax)
 
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Dumb question. Outside of a quiet profile in iCue software, is there anything you can do to make fans quieter? These fans ramping up sound like a damn jet plane. Never had this issue with fans before.

The fans on the 9070xt are loud as fuck even with a fan control profile tuned to my liking.
 
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I think all the graphics cards are loud now. My PC sounds like an 80s box fan in your bedroom window on high speed in the summer.
 

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They're louder because the power consumption has crept up quite a lot over the years, even midrange cards are now at the level top end cards were 10 years ago (original Titan card was 250 watts, the 5070 has the same and the 5090 more than double that).

Rather than messing with fan profiles I suggest using the power limit feature using MSI afterburner, lower power limit means less heat generated so lower cooling requirements. You will lose some fps but the relationship is by no means linear (cutting power 30% might only cost you 10% fps).

How much you can cut the power budget depends on the game you're playing. No point in putting up with a bunch of noise to run a game at 150 fps when it's just as playable at 100 fps.
 

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They're louder because the power consumption has crept up quite a lot over the years, even midrange cards are now at the level top end cards were 10 years ago (original Titan card was 250 watts, the 5070 has the same and the 5090 more than double that).

Rather than messing with fan profiles I suggest using the power limit feature using MSI afterburner, lower power limit means less heat generated so lower cooling requirements. You will lose some fps but the relationship is by no means linear (cutting power 30% might only cost you 10% fps).

How much you can cut the power budget depends on the game you're playing. No point in putting up with a bunch of noise to run a game at 150 fps when it's just as playable at 100 fps.
My 7900XTX is almost always quiet-ish. If this PowerColor 9070 XT isn't as quiet, then into my kids PC it will go. I dropped a fair amount on the RX Max fans because they were supposed to be 10 Db more quiet than the LX/QX/RX fans.
 

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My 7900XTX is almost always quiet-ish. If this PowerColor 9070 XT isn't as quiet, then into my kids PC it will go. I dropped a fair amount on the RX Max fans because they were supposed to be 10 Db more quiet than the LX/QX/RX fans.
My Red Devil was very quiet especially with a slight under volt and a tweaked fan curve. You can also set the curve delay so that spin up is gradual and not instantaneous so you don’t have these massive ramp ups and downs. In quiet mode the fans weren’t even on for normal desktop work.
 

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GPU fans are small and can spin up to over 3k RPM at full speed, making them quite loud. In addition, most GPU makers will prefer lower temps over noise, since lower temps means higher boost clocks and better positioning on review charts. As mentioned, look at adjusting the fan curve, especially spin up/down delay.

I still don't understand why no GPU maker has brought a bring-your-own fan design to market. Asus and Noctua almost did this with the 3070, 3080, and 4080 using standard 120mm fans, but the price premium was something like +$200 over their Strix lines.

If looks do not matter, take off the fans and shroud and zip-tie a couple of 120mm fans to the GPU heatsink. Tie the fan headers into the motherboard unless the GPU has its own PWM header. If using the mobo header, set the fan speed to something temp and noise appropriate (likely 35-50%) fixed. Bonus points would be to use 3rd party fan control software to vary fan speed on that header by GPU temps.
 
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I am glad I did some deeper research on these 32" OLED 4k's.

Most of the displays on sale are still on Display Port 1.4 with only 32gb Bandwidth. At 4k240hz it will use DSC (Which is "Visually lossless compression" but still, compression none the less. HDMI 2.1 is still at 48gb - 4k240hz consumes 60+gb with your colors max'd approriately so you can get the full uncompressed native display functions.

Only a couple of these displays (for about 300-400 more) leverage Display Port 2.1a with 80gb Bandwidth to truly support lossless uncompressed video. Which also has various flavors of support as well. You want to make sure the display supports UHBR20 true 80gb with a Video Card and a cable that supports it. IE: My 5080 does and I recently purchased an 80gb DP 2.1 cable.

DSC causes issues with screens going black for a small period of time or also issues with alt tabbing and also create some VRR artifacting.

There are some good white papers on this. Anyway: TL;DR - If you are in the market for a 4k 240hz OLED display, make sure it supports the above. IE: https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-322URX-QD-OLED/Overview the latest MSI model. Tons of URX321's and UPX321's are on sale now for $899 and seem like a great deal - there is a reason.

And to really piss people off, the Asus PG32UCDM is Display port 1.4 at the same price as the new MSI 322URX which fully supports display port 2.1 and UHBR20 - Fucking ASUS.
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Look for that banner when looking for a new 4k240hz display. Otherwise you are getting fucked as you future proof.
 
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