Nymphomaniac

I heard there were body doubles for at least some, eg Shia LaBouf.

On another forum I frequent, this was posted:

Luturb_sl said:

From the movie's wikipedia page:

To produce scenes of unsimulated sex, Von Trier is having the genitals of porn actors digitally composited onto the bodies of the film's cast.

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Weird. Is doing a sex scene where some person's genitals are going to be photoshopped onto your crotch really that much better than getting screwed on film yourself?

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So do they have a list of which pornstars genitalia will be representing the actors/actresses? If not, I see a fun new game coming called Guess Who's Genitals! Inb4 some guy chooses Ron Jeremy.

Adebisi_sl said:

Seems like a lot of work

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not really, softcore films have been inserting body doubles engaging in hardcore sex scenes for over 40 years. you can usually tell when just the genitals are show in edits. jess franco and tinto brass are famous for this.

Adebisi_sl said:

Will there be clits cut off with scissors?
Will there be dicks smashed up and jacked off til they cum blood?

If not, I'm not interested.

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Your life's gotten weird, bro.

Szlia_sl said:

I doubt titillation is the goal of Von Trier.

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Ok, so, I'm not trying to be a smartass here but judging from that trailer -- what exactly would the goal be?

A realistic yet dramatized portrayal of the sexual proclivities of an emotionally distressed young woman?

That's porn. I will grant you that it is a very high class OF porn, probably the highest possible class of porn. Maybe surrealist art-porn is higher, maybe lower, I dunno Germans do some weird "i'm not really sure if that counts" shit...

All I mean is that you can do a movie about "A day in the life of a prostitute" and that's a perfectly legitimate story to tell. And you can use that to explore plenty of artistic themes. But that's gonna be porn if you show her getting bukkake'd at a bachelor party. You see what I mean?

Edit: Isn't that basically the sort of dishonesty that leads hollywood into making summer blockbusters and then claiming, "But we're not glorifying violence". Do cumshots and graphic penetration really add anything that can't be arrived at any other way here? I'm not pre-judging, that's an honest to god question. And even if there isn't and those are just the tools he wanted to use, that's fine too. But they're pornographic tools. The pre-judgement is that sex sells, even arted up sex.

Iannis_sl said:

Ok, so, I'm not trying to be a smartass here but judging from that trailer -- what exactly would the goal be?

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Maybe he thinks he can do to Pornos what Hitchcock/Pyscho did to horror?

Von Trier frequently makes use of meta-narratives. So while you may be watching something considered pornographic, there's a story to be had beyond the image itself. If you watch the filmAntichrist, and you tell me it's about a man and wife grieving the loss of a child--your really missing the better story being told.

Additionally, he likes making his audience uncomfortable. He even likes putting his actors into situations they are uncomfortable in. He's a bit like a behavioral scientist gone mad--poking people to see what they'll do. So the idea of making the audience his petri dish doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

galgor_sl said:

He's a bit like a behavioral scientist gone mad--poking people to see what they'll do.

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Thats...actually a pretty accurate summation of the guy's work, imo.

Wizardhawk_sl said:

So do they have a list of which pornstars genitalia will be representing the actors/actresses? If not, I see a fun new game coming called Guess Who's Genitals! Inb4 some guy chooses Ron Jeremy.

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Jeremy's dong will be the one that looks wilfred brimley slamming face first into a roast beef sandwich.

Elissidel_sl said:

Thats...actually a pretty accurate summation of the guy's work, imo.

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so the purpose is titillation.

I don't mind art porn. Shit, the world needs more good art porn. I do mind art faggotry though. We got enough of that.

galgor_sl said:

Von Trier frequently makes use of meta-narratives. So while you may be watching something considered pornographic, there's a story to be had beyond the image itself. If you watch the filmAntichrist, and you tell me it's about a man and wife grieving the loss of a child--your really missing the better story being told.

Additionally, he likes making his audience uncomfortable. He even likes putting his actors into situations they are uncomfortable in. He's a bit like a behavioral scientist gone mad--poking people to see what they'll do. So the idea of making the audience his petri dish doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

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Galgor is exactly right. Welcome to Lars Von Trier and more broadly welcome to what started withDogme 95 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Antichrist was that movie with Willem Defoe where his penis...things happened...Same guy doing this?

Antichrist was a pretty powerful movie.

That was a lot of nudity in a trailer to not be removed by youtube yet.

I enjoyed shame, I'll probably like this too.

as normal, youtube did take it down for a time

After THR [The Hollywood Reporter] confirmed with a spokesperson for the film that the clip had been removed over nudity, YouTube reversed its decision and restored the footage on the site. "With the massive volume of videos on our site, sometimes we make the wrong call," says a YouTube spokesperson. "When it's brought to our attention that a video has been removed mistakenly, we act quickly to reinstate it." The service also added an age-restriction in order to protect younger viewers.

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Another shitty self called auteur film where nothing happens on a meta level. Any of his films is a pedantic fraud where not-so-wild emotions are falsely put into an arthouse shaker for the sake of "doing something different". So he has seen Godard / Truffaut / Rohmer Nouvelle Vague films during his youth and that makes him an artist because he had fucked up nudist parents ? Lol, and that Dogme 95 bullshit is just hillbilly level cinematography, where it screams "I have no talent so when I occasionally take a decent shot call it a masterpiece please". You want real unsimulated sex in traditional cinema ?Be my guest. You want actual actor direction, genuine cinematography and quality writing ? Go somewhere else.