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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Araxen
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Valderen
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Not surprising, I just checked his stream he’s up to 16K and has people subscribing or donating like every minute. He'll be fine I think.
I just want him to stream durimf OWL and take 10-15 viewers from it and see what blizzard and twitch do about it.
Oh and I have to remember to watch the next game for the chat alone, and the next fuel game.
I just want him to stream durimf OWL and take 10-15 viewers from it and see what blizzard and twitch do about it.
Oh and I have to remember to watch the next game for the chat alone, and the next fuel game.
Araxen
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Brikker
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Yeah, something is fucky. I've had the stream on on my 2nd monitor for multiple days of matches, BNet and Twitch are linked, but I have 0 tokens for any team.
Araxen
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This post on Reddit is really good: Jake's thoughts on the current dive meta • r/Competitiveoverwatch
The important part of the vod is here. He talks about Dive and why it is so dominate. The vod leads in perfectly to Spitfire's Dive and the Tank-Try-To-Counter Dive Comp LAG ran on Route 66. Basically it comes down to any other strat than Dive is pretty futile. Brigitte won't change anything about Dive either like some thought because she's just a slow melee character that can be kited easily like all the other non-mobile heroes.
The important part of the vod is here. He talks about Dive and why it is so dominate. The vod leads in perfectly to Spitfire's Dive and the Tank-Try-To-Counter Dive Comp LAG ran on Route 66. Basically it comes down to any other strat than Dive is pretty futile. Brigitte won't change anything about Dive either like some thought because she's just a slow melee character that can be kited easily like all the other non-mobile heroes.
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Valderen
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That was really interesting insight from Jake, also very depressing. I like OWL, but it's so stale sometimes.
I think in the long run, it might be the biggest challenge OWL faces, that dive meta that never changes with maybe only 8-10 heroes or so being viable, and the rest almost never used except for very specific tactics. It will get boring to watch....hell it is boring already sometimes.
I think in the long run, it might be the biggest challenge OWL faces, that dive meta that never changes with maybe only 8-10 heroes or so being viable, and the rest almost never used except for very specific tactics. It will get boring to watch....hell it is boring already sometimes.
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Whidon
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That seems like a pretty good analysis. From what I've seen it's filtering down more and more as at my SR around 3300 i'm seeing these dive comps more and more. I think my team ran Winston, Dva, Moira, Genji, and Zen in 9/10 matches today... With only a sprinkling of other DPS getting the last spot and Mercy/Lucio replacing Moira once and Zen once each. Even on my gold account i see Winston/DVA all the time.
I think the problem is clearly the mobility of some heroes. Mobility kills in most competitive games. I don't see the guy really suggest this but i think they probably need to greatly up the cooldowns on Boosters, maybe nerf defense matrix also. But Boosters, Jump, Fade, and blink, maybe make genji a bit less mobile also. make the base speed boost from lucio like 15%.
I don't think you will ever be able to balance Heroes with the low CD/no CD movement abilities as they are.
I think the problem is clearly the mobility of some heroes. Mobility kills in most competitive games. I don't see the guy really suggest this but i think they probably need to greatly up the cooldowns on Boosters, maybe nerf defense matrix also. But Boosters, Jump, Fade, and blink, maybe make genji a bit less mobile also. make the base speed boost from lucio like 15%.
I don't think you will ever be able to balance Heroes with the low CD/no CD movement abilities as they are.
Kharzette
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Needless
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Only 5-6 months until a new character will come out, maybe they'll address a hero that can -actually- counter dive lol
Quick kaplan, make a hero that has a lucio aura, but instead of healing; it disables enemy abilities that are inside the aura!
Oh-oh-oh, and another ability that has a skillshot like roadhog, except it tethers the target to them so they cant get further than 5ms away for a few seconds
Calling for a nerf on every ability that makes a character mobile is not a fix.
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Finished my last placement match on my smurf, had a tracer and hanzo as dps. hanzo had 0 time in the last season 3s on hanzo, only 2 hours on winston each season. Guess one of those guys that just does placements for the points and doesnt care if he wins. DPS couldnt kill crap. Welcome to comp =p
