Overwatch

Zaphid

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I wonder how well they balance skills vs aim, because so many trailers show them as IWIN buttons, which is really terrible for FPS and some of the first impressions mention how the game feels a lot slower than TF2. If they tack on character unlocks for ingame currency ala HotS, they are halfway there with me not giving a fuck.
 

Palum

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Lol, you guys are delusional, it's a blizzard game for kids, casuals and consoles. You'd be lucky if it reached TF2 "skill levels". Hats are just the beginning.
 

Selix

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I wonder how well they balance skills vs aim, because so many trailers show them as IWIN buttons, which is really terrible for FPS and some of the first impressions mention how the game feels a lot slower than TF2. If they tack on character unlocks for ingame currency ala HotS, they are halfway there with me not giving a fuck.
Generally FPS games that focus on skill instead of RNG are not as popular because who wants to get owned 53-2 unless they practice day after day? It sucks for those of us who like that sort of challenge but we are the old folks now. Still if they build it like LoL model you could add skill within depth within RNG but blizzard isn't known for adding characters regularly and they already have their LoL type game.
 

Dumar_sl

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Lol, you guys are delusional, it's a blizzard game for kids, casuals and consoles. You'd be lucky if it reached TF2 "skill levels". Hats are just the beginning.
Yup, and by quotes you mean a very low skill level. TF2 is a joke and a half. Actually two jokes.
 

Mist

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FPS games can either have aiming skill or movement skill. This looks like it has neither.
 

Tenks

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Blizzard already made one of the most difficult to play competitive multiplayer games in the modern landscape in Starcraft2 and I never see you people demanding these high skill ceiling games playing that
 

Mist

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Because I played Brood War for 3 years and SC2 is not anything new. I was sick of Starcraft practically a decade before SC2 ever came out.
 

Tenks

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It is a pure RTS that added a ton of UI functionality without mucking with the winning formula of RTS. Saying it didn't do anything new compared to BW (in fact most people who weren't F- in iCCup would say it did too much) is just blatantly a wrong opinion.
 

Caliane

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Even if we give them credit for SC2 for being competitive. as if there is any rts competition..

Co-op mp pvp, and single player pvp are entirely different ballgames.
 

Zaphid

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Generally FPS games that focus on skill instead of RNG are not as popular because who wants to get owned 53-2 unless they practice day after day? It sucks for those of us who like that sort of challenge but we are the old folks now. Still if they build it like LoL model you could add skill within depth within RNG but blizzard isn't known for adding characters regularly and they already have their LoL type game.
I'd be genuinely stunned if they had dedicated servers, so what you described is more of a matchmaking problem than design. I like to have something to improve on beyond the classic Blizzard F2P daily quests which cause me to burn out on every game that has them.

FPS are much easier to pick up and go, as long as you don't get completely obliterated, you will have some fun. MOBAs and RTSes require you to carve out a chunk of your time to dedicate.
 

Eidal

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I'm trying to think of a game that Bliz launched in the last two decades that did poorly. While this is a new IP, it cracks me up with people dismissing it already as if they know better than Blizzard.
 

Mist

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I'm sure it will do well just because it's Blizzard and selling skins will be a racket, but it doesn't look very fun at all. The art direction is great but the gameplay looks incredibly bland.
 

Palum

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I'm trying to think of a game that Bliz launched in the last two decades that did poorly. While this is a new IP, it cracks me up with people dismissing it already as if they know better than Blizzard.
Commercial success != great game, just look at CoD/BF lately. SC2 was mediocre with absurd content speed, D3 was just nowhere near as engaging as D2. In fact the only relatively positive thing I can say is the last two wow expansions have progressively gotten better from the shit heap that was cataclysm.

Compare modern blizz to other devs, yea they're ok. Compared to old blizz, the entire industry sucks donkey nuts.
 

Abefroman

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Commercial success != great game, just look at CoD/BF lately. SC2 was mediocre with absurd content speed, D3 was just nowhere near as engaging as D2. In fact the only relatively positive thing I can say is the last two wow expansions have progressively gotten better from the shit heap that was cataclysm.

Compare modern blizz to other devs, yea they're ok. Compared to old blizz, the entire industry sucks donkey nuts.
Or maybe you are just getting old.
 

Palum

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Or maybe you are just getting old.
Bullshit, the industry has changed to milk $$ instead of produce a good product. Games went from developing "the last _____ you'll ever want to play" to "play this for a year until we release the next one, shitbags".

I played Starcraft until WC3 came out, then WC3 until (roughly) when SC2 came out. SC2 lasted a few weeks, not because it was bad but because it was literally a prettier WC3 with SC characters/mechanics instead of a further evolution like WC2->SC->WC3.
 

Dumar_sl

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That's the same reason I don't play modern FPS games. I challenge anyone to find me a FPS with the old-style physics of Quake or TFC. It doesn't exist. Why? Money.

There's a difference between wanting to make money, which those old games did, and making god heaps of money for your new ferrari garage and coke/whores collection. The former is being successful based on a truly good product; the latter is selling out by appeasing the masses.

Blizzard and most every FPS studio have sold out. Overwatch will be a FPS casual shitfest with purchased skins and hats to appease the Soccer Moms and SJW blue-haired transwhales.