Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Phazael

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No offense, but there were plenty of people who called bullshit on the whole thing from day one. Anyone intimately familiar with the VG situation, Brad's addictions, or even just the last part of his EQ1 tenure were sounding red flags at the get go. A lot of people just let their heart cloud their judgment in the hopes of reclaiming some past nostalgia. I know in my personal case, the only part of this entire situation that surprises me is how far down the hole Brad has fallen and yet people are still throwing him a lifeline.

I doubt Brad single handedly wrecked the entire genre. The stale nature of the last half decade of fantasy MMOs has done most of that. But he probably has done a lot of harm to future crowd funded projects in this arena, by preying on the weak minded. This would not bother me if he were not still out dirt biking on his expensive rare bike while dipping into the till for this game. For all of Schilling's faults and mistakes, he was actually trying to produce something and not trying to rip people off. Brad deserves every ounce of public humiliation that he is getting right now.
 

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There is still zero evidence that he is currently addicted to drugs besides 'he looks stoned'.

The people calling him out on it with no proof were, and still are, way out of line. Bring some proof to the table and then we can discuss reality. We aren't a bunch of gossiping sorority girls that operate on assumptions.
Don't be ridiculous. The dude was popping shit all during the VG development cycle. No one is going to give proof because it would mean outing friends who dealt with that shit on the inside. I admit he might not be a junkie now, but in my experience the only time someone stops being doing that shit is when they either run out of money or get busted/go to rehab for it. The former is about to happen, the latter has not.
 

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Vanguards failure, Brad's past and other personal bullshit never came into my decision not to back the KS. The KS itself was garbage from day 1 and showed a lack of professionalism.
 

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Don't be ridiculous. The dude was popping shit all during the VG development cycle. No one is going to give proof because it would mean outing friends who dealt with that shit on the inside. I admit he might not be a junkie now, but in my experience the only time someone stops being doing that shit is when they either run out of money or get busted/go to rehab for it. The former is about to happen, the latter has not.
Nobody is arguing that he didn't have a drug problem during the VG development cycle. That's pretty well known, and people did out him at the time.

Also, just because you have some ridiculous anecdotal opinion on how people get over drug addiction, does not mean it is fact.
 

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Nobody is arguing that he didn't have a drug problem during the VG development cycle. That's pretty well known, and people did out him at the time.

Also, just because you have some ridiculous anecdotal opinion on how people get over drug addiction, does not mean it is fact.
I've asked people who were involved with pantheon who got fucked over, people who hangout with the dude and still none of them think he's on anything. I think the guy is just out of his fucking mind. Saying he's on drugs is kind of letting him of the hook here. He's just a shady fucker and well aware of his actions. Only thing he is high on is greed.
 

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Compare his behavior to that of a typical drug addict and ask yourself what it objectively looks like. I mean a white collar druggie popping prescription meds kind of druggie.
 

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Compare his behavior to that of a typical drug addict and ask yourself what it objectively looks like. I mean a white collar druggie popping prescription meds kind of druggie.
I have compared it. I was definitely leaning to he is on something. That's why I started asking. Just reporting what I was told by 4 people who know the guy.
 

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Compare his behavior to that of a typical drug addict and ask yourself what it objectively looks like. I mean a white collar druggie popping prescription meds kind of druggie.
'Typical drug addict'. What does that even mean?

No offence, but I'm gonna back off from this conversation because it appears you lean heavily towards unsubstantiated anecdotal generalizations that you try to pass off as fact. Makes for unsatisfying arguments.
 

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There is still zero evidence that he is currently addicted to drugs besides 'he looks stoned'.

The people calling him out on it with no proof were, and still are, way out of line. Bring some proof to the table and then we can discuss reality. We aren't a bunch of gossiping sorority girls that operate on assumptions.
The Absence of Evidence is not the Evidence of Absence!

 

Abefroman

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What we have here is a desperate man flushing his carrer down the drain because of bills. He has never been good with money or pressure. I don't see drugs having anything to do with this excpet for low hanging fruit to insult him with.
 

Phazael

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Except he was popping shit all during VG and his behavior now pretty much matches what it was then. And a pill habit is a pretty good way to make a lot of money flush down the toilet. To me, the biggest thing making me think he is still doing that shit is that he never publicly acknowledged the problem back during VG and tried to sort his shit out then.
 

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We need our mole. Someone must get past their old lady defenses..

I think the indigogo will provide the most Lolz!
If this goes to indigogo I will be sad. Any money raised will be fuel for the project and people will get ripped off before we're able to spread the good word. Obviously that's why Brad wants to do that instead of kickstarter. A true class act.