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Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Out of boredom I watched the original team's pitch video and it's funny how bored they all look reading from the script they were given. "Blah blah blah snore ZZZzzz EQ1 reference pls give us money ToV epic adventure no seriously money." Maybe I read him wrong, but Salim never seemed to give a shit about what was going on, the art dude was looking for a new gig the whole time and most of the rest of the team was completely ghost.
They are on hold until Fat Chic can raise $8.99 from Kickstarter for the new Unity wall sconce pack.
Unfortunately she was only able to raise $3.50 and her Sconcestarter wasn't successfully funded.
Big Flex
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Laura
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Take the third,
What happened to EQ is the fundamental change in game content philosophy. Back in classic EQ was 80% group content and 20% raid content and in PoP and GoD that's completely changed to the opposite. Most of the expansions catered to Raiding guilds when the majority of the players actually don't care about Raids but were forced to raid. When you buy an expansion (Planes of Power) and find out that majority of the zones are blocked and the only way you can see that content is to enlist in a boring guild taking shit from nerdy douchebags doing boring crap.
I raided a lot but all what I remember from that is EXTREME BOREDOM. I quit right after GoD when I realized this game is not catering to me but instead it's clearly targeted towards raiders.
Also remember these expansions started to ruined several things for instance the whole point of the faction system. When Plane of Knowledge was introduced... why do you even care about faction anymore when you have a city where you can find everything you need without any kind of faction consideration. It doesn't matter if you're KoS in any city because you don't NEED them anymore. PoK is 100% safe for everyone and so convenient that the faction system in most cases was pointless (besides if you're doing quests or what have you). I think that's a nice chunk of indirect game content was taken away. I remember as a Dark Elf I usually work hard to get FreePort faction up, when PoP was introduced, who gives a fuck?
It also made the world seems "gamish" with the introduction of the books where you can jump from the far east of the world to the far west by clicking on some objects.
EQ slowly and gradually started to change into a different game. Different enough for many of us to make us just stop playing. That's why you find these classic EMU servers are popular and those progression servers. Though I agree EQ is niche and it should be. That genre (the EQ kind of game) was always supposed to be a niche genre and is definitely not for everyone.
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This is funny because I remember exactly the opposite. By the time GoD rolled on us, I was in a relatively casual guild, doing dungeons, slightly older raids, and whatnot. And we were barely affected by GoD. In fact, GoD basically was a golden opportunity for us to get some levels (half of what was originally planned), find out stuff, try to do some quests (I basically wrote the entire definitive guide to the progressive Augment; for years afterward, my home page was still #1 or #2 hit on Google). We didn't event try to do serious stuff, because it was evident it was geared for the real hardcore... but it was barely a blip in our awareness.
And since we were on europe, we had 4 months of delay for WoW, and thus we went onward to Omens of War. Which was better balanced, let us do some semi-serious fighting on hard nameds and minor raiding and whatnot.
And that's the core of the problem. Because most of the fanboys want an AAA-quality EQ-type game, but the market does not, and will not ever support it again. It's 500k subs were a fluke due to its position and lack of serious competition, one that will not be repeated ever again.
What drove me away from EQ (and what drove me away 3 times, only to return because none of the alternatives were really good) is simple:
Ukerric shouts "Looking for Group".
If you're looking at why Everquest crashed once a reasonable alternative became available, look no further.
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I think the average person who played EQ in the 'glory years' even acknowledges that Vanilla WoW was the better game in almost every facet but the clamor for a remake of vanilla WoW isn't as strong on these boards than for a remake of EQ. I wonder if that's simply because EQ was 'first' and no matter how many drawbacks EQ had it doesn't matter because you always remember your first even if better things came after it.
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Brad added 5 new screenshots this morning over on his facebook page.
Notice the dig at RR?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
"Some interim screenshots. As before, the crude background on some of the shots is just a staging area we use to test gameplay. Apparently, though, there was a 'nasty' issue with our skeleton (per one of our favorite 'fan sites'), so we had to get a fix in ASAP. And you know how these middle of the night patches go..." - Brad
Notice the dig at RR?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater
"Some interim screenshots. As before, the crude background on some of the shots is just a staging area we use to test gameplay. Apparently, though, there was a 'nasty' issue with our skeleton (per one of our favorite 'fan sites'), so we had to get a fix in ASAP. And you know how these middle of the night patches go..." - Brad
I think this calls for a thread title change. Pantheon: A bone to pick with Rerolled or Rerolled: The skeletons in Pantheon's closet.
Bruman
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I think there's many reasons why as many people don't clamor for a remake of Vanilla WoW:
1. WoW is still the most successful MMO running
2. They've constantly updated WoW, unlike the EQ codebase that has stagnated and is terrible. WoD is the biggest rewrite of the game they've done. Cata revamped the entire old world. Blizzard has issues, but they've never been afraid to invest in their big products with hard work.
3. Almost everything about modern WoW is better than Vanilla WoW.
That said, there is at least 1 semi-popular Vanilla WoW private/pirate server.
Ditto, I'm working from home today, and I can't see it either. Do you have to friend him or something? Someone just repost them please
Soygen
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Were they taken down? Maybe they are on Brad's personal Facebook? I'm not friends with him. I'm referring to this:
