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Reht

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Yeah, i remember it was months between the first and second rangers on my server getting a Tolan's longsword
 

kegkilla

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Also velious textures were great. Wish instead of Luclin models they just added more armor textures :(
yeah Dark Elf models were especially hot.

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TJT

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DElf Cleric son! Rez Stick was always cool but annoying in that you ended up using it for literal years and constantly. I don't even remember the various stat sticks I replaced it with in POP. But I always remember my Water Sprinkler of Nem Ankh!

Although I always wanted to be an Ogre Shaman. Alas these were before the days where I could be a trans-Ogre DElf.
 

Heallun

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I meant weapons.

Everyone remembers their, "Oh shit!" moment when you saw some asshole with a SoulFire for the first time.

Also, even after all this time. EQ really nailed having epic, expansive questlines that took you all over the fucking place and into the unknown. That were really, really cool. Long before the actual Epic quests came into the game.

Stein of Moggok quest is one of those really cool things that requires some ingenuity if you're the right class(es) and just gets you out there in the game world.

Until WoW came along and fucked it into being go around and collect some bear asses.

rhok'delar, benediction/anathema, quel'serrar, opening of AQ gates, thunderfury, sulfuras all just off the top of my head were great vanilla WoW quests with epic rewards. The leveling via questing wasn't so much of a thing until TBC+ (and the cataclysm old world revamps). You were still far better off getting a group to dungeon grind for experience / loot while leveling.
 

etchazz

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It was just a little drop of poison.

It looked like your dagger had gonorrhea!

I wasn't too thrilled with the wiz epic, either. I was hoping for an epic that would give greater spell damage or clarity or something more useful. I remember when the wiz on my server got the staff of Al'Kabor. I was so jealous.
 

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It looked like your dagger had gonorrhea!

I wasn't too thrilled with the wiz epic, either. I was hoping for an epic that would give greater spell damage or clarity or something more useful. I remember when the wiz on my server got the staff of Al'Kabor. I was so jealous.

Yeah but Epic manaskin+manastone
 
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Kuro

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Rogue Epic *not* having a giant flashy lightsaber effect was actually what I loved about it. You're a sneaky git, having a blade that drips poison every once in a while makes way more sense than a raver's glowstick.

And it's not like we went through the same PITA to get our Epic as the other classes :D

Honestly, I think I was just as hyped for my Burning Rapier as I was for Freebringer.
 
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Daidraco

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When the Warrior Epic came out, I could have gave a rats ass about how it looked as long as it would help my shit tastic warrior aggro. I remember it so clearly cause the difference in aggro was night and day.

Besides, this was the master race when it was relevant - Cobalt and all.
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xzi

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rhok'delar, benediction/anathema, quel'serrar, opening of AQ gates, thunderfury, sulfuras all just off the top of my head were great vanilla WoW quests with epic rewards. The leveling via questing wasn't so much of a thing until TBC+ (and the cataclysm old world revamps). You were still far better off getting a group to dungeon grind for experience / loot while leveling.

Quel'Serrar was fucking amazing to me. That's the first thing that really blew my mind, like, get this sword and cleanse it by DRAGON FIRE. That was prime RPG to me.
 

Tolan

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Ranger epic was the bees knees. 40% haste + attack boost in off hand, 50% slow proc in main hand. It immediately allowed me to solo-farm mobs that I struggled with prior. AFAIK, Earthcaller is still useful to this day for the slow effect. Couple the epic with this: Dark Cloak of the Sky and you have 90%+ self-haste. Took me years to get that cloak though.

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Heallun

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Ranger epic was the bees knees. 40% haste + attack boost in off hand, 50% slow proc in main hand. It immediately allowed me to solo-farm mobs that I struggled with prior. AFAIK, Earthcaller is still useful to this day for the slow effect. Couple the epic with this: Dark Cloak of the Sky and you have 90%+ self-haste. Took me years to get that cloak though.

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Rangers have been meleeing for damage since GoD. Swiftwind had use during luclin / PoP as an attack stick. Most ranger bowing was for headshot / volley killing later :3 Though this has been severely nerfed since DBG took control.

Still a fun looking lightning swords but they definitely saw far less use than something like a cleric epic. and dcos was useful until the cheap alacrity potions (GoD) where it just wasn't needed to keep clicking the bastard, though still an option.
 

Tolan

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Rangers have been meleeing for damage since GoD. Swiftwind had use during luclin / PoP as an attack stick. Most ranger bowing was for headshot / volley killing later :3 Though this has been severely nerfed since DBG took control.

Still a fun looking lightning swords but they definitely saw far less use than something like a cleric epic. and dcos was useful until the cheap alacrity potions (GoD) where it just wasn't needed to keep clicking the bastard, though still an option.
All good points. I hotkeyed my dcos, and several other short refresh abilities later on, to my kick ability which was essentially clicked without thinking about it after years of doing it. So spamming it was a non issue for me. The alacrity potions were nice, but I'd rather not have to keep them stocked.

Sure wish I had that cloak in velious.
 

Vinjin

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The original epics in EQ were so disparate in power, longevity, and quest completion, yet they were all extremely coveted by players. It didn't seem to matter that some were relatively easy to obtain (i.e. Rogue) while others were extremely hard/long (i.e. Mage, Warrior). Almost everyone had a goal to obtain theirs at some point.

SOE did a significantly better job across the board with the epic 1.5s and 2.0 versions when Omens was released. Good times!
 

Muligan

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I loved all the epics. It was a very impactful touch to the game. Added something visually special to our characters that wasn't present at that time in MMOs. Even now they make weapons or appearance slot that make everything "epic" looking which I think hurts the feel now.

The quests brought a lot of people together as well. I remember being on the last part of my cleric epic and people came out of the woodworks to help just because of how close our community was back then. Lanys was about like Mayberry. Everyone knew each other and if went out of my way to Rez someone 3-6 months ago, they remembered it.

Looking at these pics and thinking back I believe this shows how much more meaningful the game becomes when you have to struggle a bit to separate yourself.

You walk around in banded armor that you saved every penny to buy or you finally get that magicial weapon from Shady to for all your cash it's meaningful. Same with finally get that drop you waited on for hours or camping gaints for FS and pp so you can get some from EC Tunnels, you felt accomplished. The methods now just really feel hollow and so easily replaced.
 
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Tearofsoul

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epic quests in both eq and eq2 are great. I don't remember Vanguard has epic quest tho, not for the first year at least.
 

Xexx

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I loved epics in eq - i did rogue on EQ1 and Assassin on EQ2 - I really wish WoW took a different approach to their so called epic questlines but whatever.
 

etchazz

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The only thing annoying with the epics was your guild would be more than happy to help the clerics or warriors get theirs, but if it was for a mage or necro, good luck! I remember trying to get people together to finish the necro epic in the POS was like pulling teeth. Also, although they nerfed the wizard epic rather quickly, when we needed the skin off of Cazic Thule, our epic quest was annoying as fuck. We had 8 wizards on the first time that skin dropped, and had like 3 of our wizards quit the guild after they didn't get it.
 

Vinjin

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I seem to recall Mages struggling with theirs due to the Plane of Sky 7th island drop. As time passed and loot from PoS became less attractive, it was difficult to convince guildees to go due to the time requirements.

My timeframes may be different than others as I started playing EQ a little later than most here. It was a week after Velious had launched. As such, my server (Xev), was way behind many others in terms of progression.
 
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kudos

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Coming from me this is hilarious but keep the fucking EQ talk to the EQ thread literally just above this atm.
 
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