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Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Vanguard group harvesting was one of the best features of the game IMO. One person has a specific harvesting skill that he/she can pass on to others in the group if they don't possess it. More people harvesting = more resources gathered and better chances at rare resources.
yeah, no hybrid servers. one ffa pvp server though please.
on pvp: i've found it to be the opposite; granted, there's about the same amount of assholes on both sides. moreover, 'community' has more 'depth' when said person can kill you. pve'ers, i find, expect that if they work hard enough they'll get their carrot which is not the default position of a pvp server. contested carrots taste better.
hire an economist or have no trading at all.
tad10
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I'd be surprised if it isn't a stretch goal. I like VG crafting/harvesting as well, but it's not as central to an MMO as the adventuring experience and it's something that can be easily added later once they've got monthly subs. But I'd be happy to be wrong.
Brad McQuaid ?@Aradune 4m
Hi all, please follow @PantheonRotF - we are already tweeting some lore as a lead up to the Kickstarter launch. Please retweet this. Thanks!
Brad McQuaid (Aradune) on Twitter
Hi all, please follow @PantheonRotF - we are already tweeting some lore as a lead up to the Kickstarter launch. Please retweet this. Thanks!
Brad McQuaid (Aradune) on Twitter
And I see gogojira_ tweeted an inquiry based off my Oculus Rift question. Not the best answer I could hope for, but still good enough. Rift dev kit 1 is all that's out now, and there's still no release date for the consumer model. There's just not much for them to work with atm to go as strong into Rift support as I could want. Which is designed with a quality VR experience in mind, every step of the way.
tad10
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I saw that too. I was going to post that reply into the thread too, but didn't want to steal Gogojira's thunder. Which is odd, considering I had no problem posting Brad's twitter message.
Brad on Oculus:
"Sweet tech, but still some issues. Would love to support it, but way to early to commit."
Edit: Oh well, people already saw it. And yeah, the question has been asked by countless people but I was hoping to get a response. It absolutely shouldn't be priority, but Oculus is making a big splash right now and I'd love to see Pantheon support it.
Also, don't worry about stealing any thunder Tannlin. It's all information we're wanting to know.
"Sweet tech, but still some issues. Would love to support it, but way to early to commit."
Edit: Oh well, people already saw it. And yeah, the question has been asked by countless people but I was hoping to get a response. It absolutely shouldn't be priority, but Oculus is making a big splash right now and I'd love to see Pantheon support it.
Also, don't worry about stealing any thunder Tannlin. It's all information we're wanting to know.
tad10
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/rant on
I'm coming to actually hate the Oculus Rift. It started with Butler wearing one in that EQN video and before and since then it seems like every fucking thread on a new MMO has at least ten "will it support the Rift?" posts and I'm like did Oculus VR sell like 5,000,000 rifts when I wasn't looking? And since I'm pretty sure they didn't, I just assume everyone who is asking about it doesn't have one and isn't getting one anytime soon. So can we focus on getting a game that works on everyday computers that everybody already owns?
/rant off
popsicledeath
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Interesting. By your logic, instead of having some of the best healing classes every devised, Vanguard perhaps had no healers, then. Because none of the classes were 'just healing' and all had other things to do that added fun and dimension to the class.
popsicledeath
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Inquisitor! It's in, guys, we're finally getting Inquisitors!!!
Oh, also, any experience (or anyone on the team) have experience playing Rift? Basically, long and short of it is I want a rogue tank. Thank you.
It's awesome new tech that seems like a great fit for an MMO. It's not a priority, but I'd love to see it in action and the device gets universal praise. Valve is doing pretty good with making it easy to integrate, too.
tad10
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Now that's funny. Also Rift is bad, m'kay. And you should feel bad for mentioning it in this thread.
popsicledeath
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The difference is tad played a monk and got addicted to feeling needed and liked (and didn't realize it was the class people liked). Tad has a problem thinking outside of his own selfish needs, sometimes. He means well, but most of us have learned to theorycraft based on the [perceived] good of the game. Tad has never learned to do that, so he theorycrafts based on reliving EQ glory, namely the things he very specifically and selfishly benefited from, even if they weren't good for EQ or any future game.
See also: the people who played wizard or druids, made a killing extorting other players for ports, and have taken it personally since PoK that in EQ and every game since they haven't been a special little snowflake everyone needed despite being anti-social retards much of the time.
FD pulling in EQ was shit. It not only changed how the game was played, but changed how ever encounter after it became the norm was balanced. When one class or mechanic in a game has the entire game hostage, it's no good and needs to be improved. But again, the few people who had everyone else by the balls LOVED it.
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Rift the idea was amazing. Allowing you to define a role you wanted, tank/dps/healer/support/hybrid/mangina/whatever and then build a skillset within the four classes to do that. Rift the live game with over-nerfed, whipsaw-balanced, and FOTM due to dev whim didn't live up to the promise and wasn't amazing at all. There is nothing wrong and a whole lot right with the players feeling powerful. Champions Online had what I thought was a great player-power ratio and then literally the day of retail launch nerfed the absolute hell out of everyone. The beta and head-start were amazing, and then launch day lots of folks were completely up-ended with builds that were totally useless at higher levels.
Don't be those guys. Look at what Gazillion is doing with Marvel Heroes. They turned a completely lackluster game at launch, with a really skeptical community and terrible word of mouth, into an incredibly fun game. While certain characters have had balancing/nerfs, at least in the forums I go to, I get the sense the players really feel like the Devs have their best interest at heart; there is so much more positive feedback, its really a great scene.
Caveat emporer, the official forums may be a wretched hive of scum and villainy but in general it is so much more optimistic than with the games that have suffered the extreme nerf stick.
popsicledeath
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Exactly. I don't recall a complete heal spell in a game since, unless I'm mistaked. Maybe one in Vanguard? I doubt it, assuming they'd learned from their mistakes. Not sure, though, as I was usually dpsing hard on my blood mage so anytime I was grouped with a cleric they usually just complained nobody ever got low enough to need a big heal. I'd tell them to dps.... which made some of the sad. Clerics. So confusing.
I also agree that Vanguard healers needed re-balanced some. I loved the hell out of my blood mage (and much later a disciple I only got into the 30s). But blood mages did too much damage. Plain and simple. Should have had lower caps on dps-caster related things like crit. Should have done less damage with a higher magnifier on tap-heals. Something. It was great for me personally because I loved the class and being OP (in many situations, not all of course and not early in the game or early levels) was fun, but not what was best for the game, that's for sure.