I feel like the hype is substantial for a Kickstarter game. Maybe I just didn't invest enough time in the others I backed, but all of those hit the site and made noise then. VR should be pretty amped that they've achieved this level of hype prior to having any official press releases.
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That's a good point but...........what if the server timers were linked? If he spawns on Bertox, he spawns on Mithaniel Marr etc.....
tad10
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It's just hype on this board really - I haven't seen much anywhere else. I think twitter followers are a good proxy for dissemination - VR should keep just releasing art and Brad tweets for another week or two until twitter follower > 1000 or whatever proxy you want Reddit followers on the pantheonrotf subreddit (currently only 17) goes to 500 or something (I'd use FB followers instead of twitter but they don't have an FB page).
They're going to be kickstarter for at least a million so they need a lot of marketing to be successful. Two pieces of art and some Brad tweets and comments on this thread isn't a lot of marketing.
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Sigil tried to do that with Vanguard and their Advanced Encounter System, but it wasn't used often due to issues with the tools if I remember correctly. There are so many creative ways to spawn named mobs. Unfortunately, since every MMO is an instance inside of an instance, they're never used. The opportunity here for Brad to develop something different (i.e. a challenging, immersive, contested MMO worth playing) is huge.
Kickstarter projects typically aren't even known about until the actual launch of the pitch. I'm not saying it's making headline news, but this thread is incredibly active and people have registered just to try and participate in the chat with Brad. Brad's own Twitter followers has increased significantly and he's already made news on MMO sites (and a few other PC media outlets). Compared to any other project I've backed, the hype is greater.
You're right in that there's certainly not enough knowledge to fund it, but this isn't normal game development and that's with the KS page will be for. The pitch needs to circulate and bring people to it to get the money flowing. A slow leak of concept art and small teasers really doesn't fit the mold here. The Kickstarter page needs to go up with tons of fresh art, screenshots and info that haven't been seen. Don't let the hype pass, I think now is the perfect time to strike.
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The old school movement has been fractured for years! You see the occasional post on different gaming forums or in a beta thread. This game will reunite for one huge, masterful, circle jerk with a grand finish on WoWs face!! Money shot?!
Seriously tho.. I think there are a lot of people that will be popping out of the wood works once they hear about the game. Doesn't hurt that all the bigger media companies are following what's going on. Brad was smart to make a demo. If it's good and the about section is interesting the traction will be there.
Seriously tho.. I think there are a lot of people that will be popping out of the wood works once they hear about the game. Doesn't hurt that all the bigger media companies are following what's going on. Brad was smart to make a demo. If it's good and the about section is interesting the traction will be there.
The sages of old will rise once again. We will've come full circle, and the cycle of life shall be complete once more.
Now we just need Brad to hold his protege over a ledge, sun beaming as the Circle of Life plays in the background.
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I may be wrong but I think you may be fooling yourself about the level of hype this game actually has. This is a website that was formed because of a game this guy made, so this board is probably the only main place it's really getting a lot of attention. If you reread the last 75 pages, it's mostly just the same 8-10 people arguing with each other about what they think the perfect modern EQ emulator would be, then another 30-40 people trying to drop ideas in to the middle of their arguments once in a while.
I hope so also, this I think was one of the major draws to the game for a lot of us, devs need to stop explaining everything, and just make the work and release the players then us figure this shit out. If the game is good it does not matter if there is a map, because people will make one even if its a rough sketch on the back of a report you were suppose to be working on for work!its been expressed before, but --
one of the coolest things about EverQuest was how unknown everything was. no in-game maps, let alone GPS. no spell descriptions. barely any spoilers for quests, and the player-created spoiler sites that were out there had more misinformation than correct information. it was very much an open world without linear rails for progression.
in real life, the unknown produces fear. but in an MMO, it produces wonder.
really hoping this game brings back that sense of wonder.
tad10
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I don't think there's enough press or exposure, as HateYou has stated, this site is in the top 1% of the top 10% of what the hell is going on with MMO sites, so exposure here doesn't mean exposure to the wider world.
I've watched and contributed to a couple of kickstarter and how much money they make early, particularly the first day and week is critical and there is usually some hype before hand. My memory, perhaps wrong, is that British had some serious leadup to his kickstarter before actually kickstarting, correct me if I am misremembering.
So in answer to Convo's question: No, I don't think it gets funded if it starts tomorrow.
I'm not fooling myself at all. I acknowledge that most of the hype is confined into a thread. I'm simply saying that relative to other Kickstarter projects, the hype is stronger than I expected. Maybe I should have left out substantial, but it's already hit numerous media outlets and there's practically nothing known about it.
There's no reason to drip feed concept art because it's not going to help. It's time to start getting the message beyond the current audience in hopes that it gets funded.
Edit: Also, pre-Kickstarter launch hype isn't an indication of funding in any regard. Nobody knows about half the stuff that comes across Kickstarter until proper word of mouth says "oh hey, this looks awesome."
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Eh it got articles on massively, mmorpg, zam and pcgamer. They were quickly swallowed up in the daily news feed. But whatever - It's not my kickstarter VR can do whatever they want. I'll stop beating the horse.
Yeah and that's fine once but with each tease people are going to get fatigued about hearing what's coming soon time and time again. The next time Pantheon makes headlines, people will be able to check out the project and actually put some money into it.
Edit: Surprised at some of these posts if you guys have experience with Kickstarter (which is sounds like you do, tad). I've not known a damn thing about the 6 or 7 I've backed until after they launched. There was no buzz, they simply arrived and people started talking about them.
I think that's the way a lot of people are feeling (or would feel if they knew about Pantheon). That's why the Kickstarter needs to launch and from the sounds of it, they've actually got content to show which is more than a lot of projects. It's time to put up or shut up or something cliche like that.
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You've backed more than I have. My memory is that British and Obsidian had some pre-press but as I said maybe I'm mis-remembering.
And they don't need kickstarter to show art assets: I think at a minimum they should have a facebook page up and a website - again, my memory is that British and Obsidian had assets up before the kickstarter. Anyone confirm?