Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Tauro

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Regarding Furor, someone who knows him from EQ should mail him asking for a plegde/a little support, where would he be without EQ?

Oh, and thanks for the nice avatar!
 

Mur_sl

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One thing I do miss and hope to see is the noob armor quest.. I loved the one EQ for my wizard.
I always felt that the noob armor quests they added when they did the character model "upgrades" were terrible. They really ruined the early game IMO. Now the SolRo armor quests were fantastic. Noobs should have to scrounge for rags and rusty weapons.
 

Sutekh

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Regarding Furor, someone who knows him from EQ should mail him asking for a plegde/a little support, where would he be without EQ?

Oh, and thanks for the nice avatar!
Probably as equally as successful just in a completely different field.
 

Dumar_sl

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I always felt that the noob armor quests they added when they did the character model "upgrades" were terrible. They really ruined the early game IMO. Now the SolRo armor quests were fantastic. Noobs should have to scrounge for rags and rusty weapons.
There should not be any weapons, armor acquired from questing until at least level 20 (in EQ terms). It certainly did dilute the early newbie experience.
 

Heallun

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Anyone who signed up later than 2012 shouldn't be allowed to post in this thread.
So close
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Tuco

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I don't think anyone wants all of EQ's time intensity back. WoW made some good changes to the industry, the problem is that many of the changes seemed to become forces of nature and went entirely too far, eventually causing problems of their own. I don't think it would be productive for Brad or the designers here to say "everything that's happened in terms of time investment reduction since 99 has been terrible"--in fact, it would be as unproductive as the recent MMO genre throwing every old "hardcore" system under the bus in the rush to make everything more time accessible.
The big things that made EQ take a time commitment in EQ were:
1. Camps.
2. Really slow combat, buffing periods and regen.
3. Getting to the content you wanted took a long time. (either because it's at the bottom of a dungeon or the world is large and there's no fast travel)
4. Most content required a group to complete and there were no good tools to do so.

I feel like most people would be pretty happy with #1 and #2 being gone. #3 I think is critical to keep. #4 is interesting because if you implement a way to automatically group with people and filter people by gear score you can easily find groups without really socializing.
 

Bruman

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Take another look at your join date there Bru, anyway I think anyone who hasn't played EQ during the classic through SOV era shouldn't be allowed to post here...
I was being tongue-in-cheek because his suggestion was pants-on-head retarded.

But yeah, anyone who enjoyed classic EQ and/or P99 would be the "feedback worth listening to" pool I'd think.
 

Sunspots_sl

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Sadly, I haven't run into any Legacy of Steel members in like 3 years. I think this game can succeed though, and honestly, how better to do that than a kick starter. If people truly want what they have been asking for since World of Warcraft took over, Brad's the guy to do it. Still, our aging group of ex-ubers is getting old and tired and probably given up on that old era. Vanguard was the best chance and if it died of anything, it was hubris. We have to stop pretending anyone other than us want this, and build it ourselves.
 

TheYanger

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Yes thats why they need to get Noel, or Brad or Dan onto those sites and explain wht Pantheon is a great idea!

They need to sell it hard. Tell them why were trying to get back to a social experience. Tell them why risk vs reward is important.

It`s much more news worthy if a member of the team gets out there and does this.

Get on reddit and get people talking ect.
The problem with Gaf hype is if they don't already have Gaf accounts, it's not the kind of site you just sign up for and get instant access. That said, EvilLore has definitely rushed through access for devs before when they wanted to talk about their game or whatever, often just takes a PM or a post saying "Hey, Lore, Brad read your criticism and is trying to get an account named XXX here so he can directly address questions and concerns like that if you're interested" or something along those lines.
 

Lunis

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I think it will just barely make the funding goal at this rate, at most the first stretch goal. The question is which publisher are they going to pitch this too?
 

tad10

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Sadly, I haven't run into any Legacy of Steel members in like 3 years. I think this game can succeed though, and honestly, how better to do that than a kick starter. If people truly want what they have been asking for since World of Warcraft took over, Brad's the guy to do it. Still, our aging group of ex-ubers is getting old and tired and probably given up on that old era. Vanguard was the best chance and if it died of anything, it was hubris. We have to stop pretending anyone other than us want this, and build it ourselves.
You're in luck. Go back 3-4 pages and say hi to that other LoS guy in this thread
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@Tuco

1. Disagree. I enjoyed camping, not all the time of coursse, but I am hoping for camp spots out in the world and in some of the non-instanced dungeon.

2. Slow combat allows boxing, but I'll agree faster than EQ OOC regen would be nice. This is a tricky one, VG was probably too fast. But given the mention of 'targeting' and reaction I guess we have to assume it's going to be a lot faster than EQ1.

3. We agree

4. Good LFG and Guild tools are a must but filtering by Gear Score sounds horrid.