You think they are using KS to get what they can from people , then SOE will step in to fund whatever is left(planned ahead of time obviously)? Not saying that's true, but oh man if it was, talk about a slap in the face. Reason I balked at Landmark pay for alpha, because a company like SOE shouldn't need to be so greedy.
I would ask if you ever have purchased a lifetime subscription, which game it was for, how long you played, when it's free to play conversion was, and if the microtransaction coin supply you received was worth it.
I have heard they are splitting to pay for capital expenditures from the Kickstarter (Office equipment, lease, etc) and if they receive that, SOE will be publishing and taking up the rest of the funding as a silent partner. But I have not been able to confirm any of that. I doubt I ever will.
At the same time, Brad IS 2 for 2 onmakinggames. I know I know, we don't have to rehash Vanguards failures but he DID make it. And nope, never purchased a lifesub before. But I paid for EQ for 5 years, EQ2 on and off for about 3 years, and Vanguard for 3 years. If I don't even include box sales, rough math on that is $1,980 on sub fees right? If we just take an average of 5 years, the costs in sub fees at $15 a month is $900. And, unless I am unable to come up with the $1 a year, I will ALWAYS have a sub to the game.
Well you can by simlpy remaking the spells, abilities, ai etc work as it did in EQ. But at that point its not a design mistake, but rather it would be "working as intended." Plus you also just end up with a carbon copy of EQ...
Isn't what what will happen once the pack is broken up? Or do you not want anything to respawn until the last mob's timer is up, then repop the whole group at once
Well, I would say 1.4 for 2 with a giant rescue on the second.
They just need to make FD an SK only skill.That's because they gotta raise a billion dollars to get the monk class
People here aren't gullible, they know what they're getting into. Nobody thinks there's a 100% chance the Kickstarter will be funded, nobody thinks there is a 100% chance there will be a completed game, and nobody thinks there is a 100% chance that if a game is made it will be good.
Why are you including yourself if you're not contributing to the campaign?
Well.. I mentioned the possibility of SOE pages back.. I think it's possible for sure.. SoE has no reason to fully fund this game.. we all know why.. it's b/c the people who play games like this are wrapped up in EQ and VG which cost them nothing.. Them getting in on this down the line is a way to cushion the blow of losing the EQ/VG crowd to this.. So It comes down to the deal. If this does happen, it would mean SoE sees value in the game which would also give Brad and team a bargain chip to dictate the terms. I'm not against SoE being involved as a publisher.. I'm against them having any say in the design, release and how the game should make money..I should also note that a company like Trion could step in as well..I would prefer that relationship.Well, I would say 1.4 for 2 with a giant rescue on the second.John Smedley saw a dollar sign opportunity there.
I understand your reasoning. But you would save money if you purchased the game for $49.99 (or less) and then the lifetime sub at $149.99 after you see the game and see if it actually ships. And that is the downside of kickstarter. Out of all the games and timelines, if it turns into vaporware, you get nothing nor your money back. Pretty rotten deal if you ask me. But I know the publishers and relics love it. Without sounding any more negative (Which I do not think is possible at this point) what a great way to take advantage of people without having to absorb any risk, no accountability, and nothing to give should the invest prove worthwhile other than a license to use the service/product.
Just how gullible can we get as gamers? (Me included)
Utnayan is denying reality again. Sony could give a crap about its piddly SOE division. Smedley doesn't have the money to fund another MMO. Frankly, if it weren't for PS4 and the few SOE titles Sony probably would have shuttered the division.
I cannot deny your logic Utnayan. But faith isn't a logical position, nor is hope.Well, I would say 1.4 for 2 with a giant rescue on the second.John Smedley saw a dollar sign opportunity there.
I understand your reasoning. But you would save money if you purchased the game for $49.99 (or less) and then the lifetime sub at $149.99 after you see the game and see if it actually ships. And that is the downside of kickstarter. Out of all the games and timelines, if it turns into vaporware, you get nothing nor your money back. Pretty rotten deal if you ask me. But I know the publishers and relics love it. Without sounding any more negative (Which I do not think is possible at this point) what a great way to take advantage of people without having to absorb any risk, no accountability, and nothing to give should the invest prove worthwhile other than a license to use the service/product.
Just how gullible can we get as gamers? (Me included)
You fail at logic. The game doesn't ship if it isn't crowd funded. If I save my money, I will have nothing to spend it on. Dying in my bed with extra gold was cool for the Pharoahs, but I'd rather spend my money and have the chance of playing a decent new MMO.
2 step backwards one step forward..That's where we are.. The alternative is the game never happens.. I don't know what areas were explored prior to the KS but I'm betting there wasnt a lot of money out there..
