Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Zefah

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EQ emulators are literally free to play. Authorized or not. Thousands of potential Pantheon customers currently make use of this option. Lots have settled in other FTP games too.
I do not agree with this statement. Luckily for us, neither have any hard data to prove the other wrong.

With EQ Emu, again, that's the same as saying piracy will make it so no one buys video games.
 
Yeah , the worry of this crowd not wanting to pay 15/month for a well done old school game is not a concern. I'd say the vast majority of backers would scream and threaten to quit if it was announced cash shop F2P and not sub. He's already said it's sub based , which is something I much prefer too.
In the interview, and a couple of other places, they hedged by 'not ruling out' some microtransactions as well. It'll be sub + cash shop, likely for vanity items.
 

Dahkoht_sl

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Eh, as long as it's 100% pure cosmetic items that have zero effect on gameplay I'd be fine with a vanity cash shop that gets them more money to keep it going and developed well. Everyone paying a sub to play , some paying more to buy their special light blue dye or whatever is fine with me.
 

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Yeah he tried to grab me here, and I didn't appreciate it.

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Then why are you still posting here? We get it, move on.
 

tad10

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The most interesting part of the video so far was Brad's comments on dynamic content - it'll be interesting to see how that plays out with respect to EQNext. I thought he actually had an interesting point - people like to feel they have 'conquered content'; and purely dynamic content prevents that.
 

unegoono_sl

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Brad you need to start giving us information here or you will start losing your support. You are not making a game old school style and slowly revealing it as you make it. You are asking us to pay our hard earned cash to buy a game and help you guys make it. We need to know EVERYTHING about what you plan to do. This whole idea of "We can't talk about it yet." And "We are still holding onto information till we see fit to release it." Just doesn't cut it. That's not how Kickstarter works.

Also fix the KS page, people have been telling you this forever now and it's something that should have been done yesterday.

We want to see you succeed but you need to start honestly taking our input to heart instead of just blowing it off as though we don't know what we're talking about, when you admit you're new to the whole KS scene.
 

Dahkoht_sl

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Just to throw in a side issue , I really hope they separate the whole alpha and beta in actual true stages. Not making the alpha the real beta , and then a month long "beta" before it launches.
 

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I do not agree with this statement. Luckily for us, neither have any hard data to prove the other wrong.

With EQ Emu, again, that's the same as saying piracy will make it so no one buys video games.
You don't think diehard fans of classic EQ are potential customers of Pantheon? I disagree. According to a poll on project1999.com, only 3% have not previously played classic EQ. 91% played during SOV or before. This is exactly who Brad is looking for.

There are around 3K online now:EQEmulator - Server List
 
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The most interesting part of the video so far was Brad's comments on dynamic content - it'll be interesting to see how that plays out with respect to EQNext. I thought he actually had an interesting point - people like to feel they have 'conquered content'; and purely dynamic content prevents that.
Yeah, I thought that was an excellent comment.
 

Merlin_sl

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Come home to start reading , after a positive morning , repledge at a higher level , PR seemingly going better , class descriptions better , Brad's learned his lessons.

Nice long video , then wait , what's that ? Cross fucking SERVER ?

Don't give a shit if they backtrack or not , the idea should never have entered their itty bitty heads for a game/crowd like this.

What in the fuck were/are they thinking about this ?
Micro transactions is a game ender for me. If they include that shit, I'm out.
 

Zefah

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You don't think diehard fans of classic EQ are potential customers of Pantheon? I disagree. According to a poll on project1999.com, only 3% have not previously played classic EQ. 91% played during SOV or before. This is exactly who Brad is looking for.

There are around 3K online now:EQEmulator - Server List
Of course they are. I also don't think any of them would balk at a subscription fee to play a GOOD new game in the vein of EverQuest. Good being the key word, obviously.

Your percentage, if accurate, shows that they happily paid a subscription at one time, and liked EverQuest so much that they'd prefer to play it over and over again in different ways than to spend their time on any other MMORPG, free or not. There are simply not commercial games available that fulfill their wants. I don't think it's necessarily the free aspect that first attracts people to EQ Emu--it's the fact that they get to play EverQuest kind of as it was again.
 
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Brad you need to start giving us information here or you will start losing your support. You are not making a game old school style and slowly revealing it as you make it. You are asking us to pay our hard earned cash to buy a game and help you guys make it. We need to know EVERYTHING about what you plan to do. This whole idea of "We can't talk about it yet." And "We are still holding onto information till we see fit to release it." Just doesn't cut it. That's not how Kickstarter works.

Also fix the KS page, people have been telling you this forever now and it's something that should have been done yesterday.

We want to see you succeed but you need to start honestly taking our input to heart instead of just blowing it off as though we don't know what we're talking about, when you admit you're new to the whole KS scene.
What are you even talking about? We got a combat update today, a tremendous interview on Cursed's YouTube channel, and Salim spent all morning answering questions and taking suggestions on the comments section of the Kickstarter. That's really good for a Saturday when many Kickstarters are dead.
 

Dahkoht_sl

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Seriously , the argument that most are playing P99 because of it's F2P is moronic. For those who give a shit about sub or F2P , there are other options out there than choosing to play EMU servers of a 90's game. They are playing it because they want to fucking play the closest thing they can to the real EQ. Has not a fucking thing to do with sub or non sub and this crowd isn't going to balk at paying a sub for Pantheon if it gets made that is.

Can we move on to bitching about the 1000 other things that there are to actually bitch about in regards to Pantheon?
 

unegoono_sl

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What are you even talking about? We got a combat update today, a tremendous interview on Cursed's YouTube channel, and Salim spent all morning answering questions and taking suggestions on the comments section of the Kickstarter. That's really good for a Saturday when many Kickstarters are dead.
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Okay so tell me about the races that will be in the game? They are with holding information and deciding to tell us when they are good and read. That shit needs to stop.
 

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Seriously , the argument that most are playing P99 because of it's F2P is moronic. For those who give a shit about sub or F2P , there are other options out there than choosing to play EMU servers of a 90's game. They are playing it because they want to fucking play the closest thing they can to the real EQ. Has not a fucking thing to do with sub or non sub and this crowd isn't going to balk at paying a sub for Pantheon if it gets made that is.

Can we move on to bitching about the 1000 other things that there are to actually bitch about in regards to Pantheon?
/agree

i started out on EQLive progression server, then moved to P99 after the progression servers started getting shitty
 

tad10

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Seriously , the argument that most are playing P99 because of it's F2P is moronic. For those who give a shit about sub or F2P , there are other options out there than choosing to play EMU servers of a 90's game. They are playing it because they want to fucking play the closest thing they can to the real EQ. Has not a fucking thing to do with sub or non sub and this crowd isn't going to balk at paying a sub for Pantheon if it gets made that is.

Can we move on to bitching about the 1000 other things that there are to actually bitch about in regards to Pantheon?
Okay. They should redo all the classes to flat - none of that specialization crap - only exception maybe give Cleric-types one or two spells based on Diety or something.

Cleric, Bloodmage, Disciple, Shaman, Druid
Warrior, Paladin, Void Knight
Rogue, Ranger, Monk, Beastlord, Berzerker
Enchanter, Wizard, Necromancer, Mage
Bard